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Join Date: Aug 2004
10-22-2005, 11:39 AM
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how do I take a picture and make everthing bw except for my boat in the pic?
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Join Date: Jan 2003
10-22-2005, 3:52 PM
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Do you have Photo Shop ? If not PM me with your E-mail and I'll do it for you.
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Join Date: Aug 2004
10-22-2005, 6:55 PM
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which photo shop? I have photo studio 5.5,Digital photo professional, arc soft photo impression 4 and 5,canon photo record 2,ulead photo explorer 7..
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Join Date: Jan 2003
10-23-2005, 1:28 AM
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Adobe Photo Shop.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
10-23-2005, 7:24 AM
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I've only done it with PS too but it's not really a high end feature so you should be able to do it with one of thos programs. In PS I would create a new layer and use the color selector command and create a mask, feather as needed. Invert the selection and desaturate.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
10-23-2005, 7:53 AM
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I do it a little different than Rich. I think his way is faster. Is this what you had in mind Kenny ?
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Join Date: Aug 2004
10-23-2005, 11:39 AM
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yes that is exactly what I had in mind (a little more black and white but leaving the boat in color yes), can you tell me the exact steps?? Thanks!! 2005) (Message edited by ghostrider_2 on October 23, 2005)
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10-23-2005, 11:44 AM
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That is awesome...I would also like to have the instruction on that process.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
10-23-2005, 11:46 AM
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Only if your using Adobe PhotoShop.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
10-23-2005, 11:49 AM
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You can do it the way Rich said or use the brush tool....Then pick brush size.......Look in MODE and choose color then go to work with the brush.
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Join Date: Aug 2004
10-23-2005, 12:06 PM
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I don't have a MODE to choose color, I converted the picture to bw then chose paintbrush, but no MODE?
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Join Date: Aug 2004
10-23-2005, 12:08 PM
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The boat is so cleanly done around the lines...
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10-23-2005, 12:09 PM
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what is the color selector command?
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10-23-2005, 12:11 PM
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Kenny, Like I said I can only help you with PS but not the other programs. Sorry.
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Join Date: Aug 2004
10-23-2005, 12:13 PM
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OH SHEETT!! How much is that program?
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Join Date: Jan 2003
10-23-2005, 12:16 PM
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You can get Adobe Photoshop Elements for under 100.00. I think Costco has it for about 80.00.
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Join Date: Aug 2004
10-23-2005, 12:46 PM
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I think I need to get it cause these programs are just to frustrating to get to work and you guys make it look easy! (Message edited by ghostrider_2 on October 23, 2005)
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Join Date: Aug 2004
10-23-2005, 1:51 PM
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first question how long did it take to do that pic? and how did you make it look so seemless? I played with Photo studio 5.5 and I could not get it to look smooth like you guys did. I hope with all these programs I really don't need to buy PS..If I do need to buy then which one?
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10-23-2005, 1:53 PM
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also what is a mask?
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Join Date: Oct 2003
10-23-2005, 7:34 PM
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When you work in Photoshop you can use a layer to mask (or cover) your main background image. You don't need to create a layer to select an area and deaturate but I've found doing it with a layer givers better results especially if you feather the selection. In your shot above if I was doing it with a layer the deaturated water would overlay or mask the actual original water in the background image.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
10-23-2005, 7:41 PM
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Sorry that should be "desaturate" (can't believe I mis-spelled it twice!)
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Join Date: Apr 2003
10-26-2005, 3:06 AM
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I should add that while "Desaturate" will give you B&W images, it gives you no control over HOW the image is converted to B&W. I do all of my B&W conversions using Channel Mixer, in the Monochrome mode. This lets you choose how much of the Red, Green, and Blue channels blend into your final image. I also created an example of using Channel Mixer to desaturate the image in a controlled way, then using History Brush to apply that desaturation only to the areas you choose. While the differences between the three images are subtle, you will notice the skin tones change dramatically. In more colorful and saturated original images, the background and blue sky will change drastically. Mike Isler www.islerphoto.com
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Join Date: Aug 2004
07-16-2006, 7:55 PM
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got Photoshop Elements 4.0 today and what you guys said I am not completely lost...
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Join Date: Jul 2005
07-20-2006, 1:36 PM
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That last one is sweet...
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07-20-2006, 2:49 PM
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Mike, how do you get the color in your photos to "pop" so much...Do you bump up the saturation in post processing? Daniel BTW, sweet images in your gallery.
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Join Date: Apr 2003
07-22-2006, 11:05 AM
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Daniel- Well, the color comes from a lot of different things. First, I'm shooting in AdobeRGB then converting to sRGB when I want to post images on the web. I'm also using a calibrated monitor. On almost all of my images, I manually set the white and black points in Photoshop, and I also usually like to add contrast in the form of an S-curve in curves. I never use the "Brightness/Contrast" tool. If I want to add saturation, which I do to a small degree on images that need it, I'll convert into L*a*b color, and add it to the A and B channels from there. Sometimes I'll also bump the contrast on the Luminosity channel. As far as getting color right, the first step is making sure that the image is neutral... white balanced properly. From there, set the levels. Make sure your white and black points are where they should be. This cleans up a lot of images already.
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07-22-2006, 11:56 AM
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OK now in english Mike. Lol!
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Join Date: Aug 2004
07-22-2006, 1:14 PM
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WOW..... After re-reading the manual for my Canon SLR I understand a little of what you just said, but actually doing it is different.. I don't have a cal monitor justa normal one. I haven't done black and white points in Photo either. But a se by step process would be much better for us noob's here's my first try which took hours. It is a picture of me, which is why my excuse of the camera setting being wrong to begin with, but it was good practice.
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Join Date: Aug 2004
07-22-2006, 1:22 PM
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heres a pic I took..
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07-24-2006, 7:01 AM
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Mike, Thanks for the pointers! I have a few photos to process this week, I'm going to play around with what you posted. Also, thanks for not being tight fisted with your techniques. I've been shooting weddings and families for a local studio for a few years now, and advice is hard to come by in this profession. Nobody wants go give away their trade secrets. I could take a photoshop course I suppose, but as I have a day job, it's hard to make the time I need to do so. So thanks again, and keep up the good work. Daniel
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Join Date: Jul 2004
07-24-2006, 7:38 AM
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What's up Daniel. You need to come shoot with me sometime. Here's some recent stuff: http://shelbydaniel.smugmug.com/gallery/800299 shelby daniel
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Join Date: Aug 2003
07-24-2006, 8:05 AM
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Awesome stuff Shelby. Looks like you guys are tearing it up. Is that at Bean's Ferry? I definately need to make it out shoot with you soon. We don't have anybody that can ride worth a crap in our crew. Daniel
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Join Date: Jul 2004
07-24-2006, 8:14 AM
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Thanks. Beans, EP, and Pickwick. Email me if you want to shoot sometime. We'll put somebody in the tube with a floodlight or a slave and shoot some dusk chaseboat stuff. shelby_daniel@hotmail.com
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