Malibu 247 lsv vs. Enzo 244+

Hello i am new to wakeworld and just wandering for some information.

I am coming from an older Malibu 23 lsv (2003) and just need more room and a bigger wake.

Does anybody have any experience with either of these boat. I mainly wakeboard but also a little surfing. I know the Enzo is amazing for wakesurfing, but don't know much about the wakeboard wake. Also i board on a pretty large lake so i need something that rides well in the chop. Any help would be appreciated!! Thanks.

I can't really comment on wakes but the Enzo has to be a better rough water ride. Both are big, heavy boats so they probably both ride well in chep but the Enzo has a fairly deep V all teh way to the back plus it will probably have a trim tab to keep the nose down and cut through chop. The Malibu flattens out more towards the stearn and a little more rounded vs a V. I have a feeling the 247 is probably a better wakeboard boat but by how much, I have no idea. It may be very negligable. I believe the Enzo requires less ballast to make a really great surf wake and because of the deeper V probably takes less weight to make a good wakeboard wake, assuming it can produce a good wakeboard wake.

ok. thanks for all the help.

The Enzo is significantly better in rough waters.
The 247 is far nimbler, but gets tossed more.

our water is very rough. I've recently demo'd a variety of boats and the Deep V hulls of the Enzo, MBs and Supreme v226 perform far better than the flatter hulls of the Malibus, tiges, and Supra.

We only surf, so I can't comment about the wakeboard wave

ok thank you, that is one of our main reasons is the rough water. we cant even make it to the dam for lunch from our wakeboarding cove without gettin beat to death.

The stock 247 wakeboard wake is perfect every time. I have not heard good things about the Enzo for wakeboarding. I suspect the rough water ride is better in the enzo, whether it is enough to justify sacrificing some wakeboard performance, you can only judge by test driving both in rough water. Make yourself some double ups and then drive through them.

If your looking for something that rides good in rough water and has a great wake you should look at the mastercraft x35 or the x 55 !! Both have great wakes and deep v hull which rides good in the rough water !!

I just picked up a Centurion 244,

The rough water ride is better on an Enzo for sure. The Bu 247 does handle better on flatter water.
90% Wakeboard/10% surf = Bu 247
90% Surf/10 % Wakeboard = 244
50% Surf/50% wakeboard = tough choice.

I only surf and I ride mainly on big lakes, so I really like the 244. They really stepped up the finish out and the PCM runs great. To be honest, it was was a tough choice for me between these two boats. I was able to find a better deal on the Enzo than the Bu.

Note: I would also take a look at the Supra 242. It has a ton of room as well. It was 3rd on my list because I personally was not that stoked about the interior finish out. I never looked at the bigger MC because the price was just crazy.

Why switch horses in the middle of the race?Is there something you don't like besides the size of your current Malibu?

Kyle, you won't go wrong with either. Both are great boats, My personal opinion would be that the Enzo would do the job but won't have many of the extras the Bu will have that you may have become accustomed to.

How these boats handle chop, and people's responses to that question is ridiculous.

Comparing any wakeboat to wakeboat's ability to handle chop is like saying "I'm torn between a Charger and a Camaro, but which drives off road better?"

I would completely eliminate that question from any decision you make when deciding which boat to buy. Both suck in chop as all wakeboarding / waterskiing boats do.

Originally Posted by brett564

How these boats handle chop, and people's responses to that question is ridiculous.

Comparing any wakeboat to wakeboat's ability to handle chop is like saying "I'm torn between a Charger and a Camaro, but which drives off road better?"

I would completely eliminate that question from any decision you make when deciding which boat to buy. Both suck in chop as all wakeboarding / waterskiing boats do.

While I agree that all wakeboats are inferior in chop to boats of other design, there are most certainly significant differences in how different wakeboat hulls handle rough water

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Saying there is no differences in the ride is just plan silly. The difference is HUGE

x3. I think that chop handling is a huge part of some wakeboarders needs such as those that consistently drive double ups or driving through big water to get to a riding spot. Its an legitimate question so here is a legitimate answer. I have ridden/driven both the newer 07+ lsv 23 and lsv 247. Both handled chop really well, solid, no rattles, but the 247 handled it noticeably better than the 23, and the 247 interior size is amazing.

Alright, alright, "X3" as a negative reply to my post was humbling!

But all things being equal, here's my big problem with the "which boat handles chop better." Every time any of us encounters chop its a combination of basically wind and other boat's wakes. Yes, other smaller factors apply.

Very rarely if ever do you see the exact same chop on two different days riding two different boats in which other factors didn't affect our perception. Now include how you were feeling that specific moment, happiness, food, beverages, where you were sitting, and how you already liked that boat would be a factor in how you felt that boat handled. And you probably wouldn't know those issues factored into the equation at that moment.

Secondly, outside of Skeeters and other bass master boats, our beloved wake boats are horrible in the chop! Obviously, the larger and heavier boats will do better than smaller boats, but our boats are made for carving perfect wakes from perfect butter. Not for handling chop.

I guess my better stated point would be "how your boat handles in chop should be (IMO) very low on your list of factors on which wake/ski boat to buy."

Also, and just to clarify my point, i understand there is a difference in all of our boats ability to handle chop. But the difference is so small compared to riding in other types of boats which may satisfy anyone's specific needs that if you are dead set on owning a wake/ski boat, this factor IMO is small compared to so many other more important differences in wake/ski boats.

The variance between wakeboard boats in how they handle chop is immense. I speak from direct experience here. My previous boat was a Mastercraft X-2 (2005 model year, 205V hull). It's a narrow, light boat with a flat underwater surface. It could not handle the chop well at all and there were many days that I wouldn't / couldn't take the boat out for a pleasure cruise. It was for flat water only and that's how it got used.

My current boat is a Mastercraft X-25, which is a heavy boat with a deep V. It was adapted from the CSX-220, which was designed for rough water (such as the Intercoastal). It cuts through chop without any problem, and I take it out in conditions I would never consider for the X-2.

They are both wakeboard boats and both throw fantastic wakes, but the range of usability is vastly different.

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My previous V drive was the Centurion Enzo 216 that has a pretty flat full in the back and the difference between that boat and the Enzo 211 is HUGE!
We were just out last night with some friends who have a Malibu inboard with Tower ballast and wedge he was amazed at the ride. H commented to his wife did you notice that we went through those rollers...she said no so he slowed down and made big rollers 2 different times to demonstrate the great ride