1080 best trick ever- If not, then what is?

murrayair 09-18-2006, 7:12 PM

Regarding today's poll on whether or not the 1080 was the best trick ever on a wakeboard, I voted that it is, but 70% of you thought that it is not. Just wondering what you think could give the 1080 a run for its money in the "best trick" category. The only other thing I could think of would be Parks' double mobe. Any other ideas?

(jay_j) · (jay_j) **Join Date: Apr 2005** 09-18-2006, 7:31 PM

depends on what your definition of best trick is. I think that a 1080 is probably one of the "hardest" tricks out there, but not the best! Its all in the opinion of the person.

(jcv) · (jcv) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 09-18-2006, 7:32 PM

the double half cab mobe, while not particularly aesthetically pleasing, is the craziest thing ever done on a wakeboard. two inverts AND a handle pass is unreal. the only thing that may give it a run for its money (besides the 1080) is a vandal double-grabbed 7 (of the non-wrapped variety) WAY out in the flats. if i'm not mistaken, i've also seen him do a double-grabbed bs 7 into the flats (i'm probably wrong)

by the way, i'm defining "best" as hardest, most ridiculous, something we may never see again insanity

countdown to somebody--most likely from california--saying a well-executed stalefish bs 180 is the best trick in wakeboarding begins....now

(Message edited by jcv on September 18, 2006)

(tsteeb) · (tsteeb) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 09-18-2006, 7:40 PM

a well executed stalefish bs 180 is the best trick in wakeboarding

glad to oblige jeff

(jcv) · (jcv) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 09-18-2006, 7:47 PM

haha, thanks tyler.

oh yeah, one more: danny harf's nuclear grabbed ts bs oa 5 (that looks closer to a blind pete 5 than a spin) has to be considered

jolly_roger_wake 09-18-2006, 8:06 PM

its probably just me, but i think all those spins look the same. they look insanely hard and i have tons of respect for anyone who does them, but i'd much rather watch someone do inverts and poked out grabs that have time for style and not just handle passes.

i wished i could do a 1080 though!

(jarrod) · (jarrod) **Join Date: May 2003** 09-18-2006, 8:42 PM

Ohhh...here we go with the...."I'd rather see a backside 180 than anything else" commments.

(aden_g) · (aden_g) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 09-18-2006, 8:50 PM

Flips get way more chicks than spins.

alanp 09-18-2006, 8:52 PM

i think shaun murray's nose grabbed back roll in either shafted or detention, dont remember which is the sickest thing ive ever seen

(malibuboarder75)

I think that a 1440 is way harder than a 1080.

(bennettag10) · (bennettag10) **Join Date: Aug 2005** 09-18-2006, 9:53 PM

leo... you might be on to something

murrayair 09-18-2006, 9:59 PM

Aden- so true, haha!

(wakesurf12) · (wakesurf12) **Join Date: Jun 2003** 09-18-2006, 10:01 PM

What was that osmosis 5 to ole 9 thing from a while back? THAT is the most insane thing I have ever seen...

(shredsickgnar)

Shane does a pretty crazy trick in mixtape. Its a TS BS OA 7, he passes the handle for the first 3 then the second 3 is ole. I am not sure if he has a special name for it but it is seriously sick.

(monroeyd) · (monroeyd) **Join Date: Jun 2006** 09-18-2006, 10:41 PM

Ryan - it's a 009 (osmosis 5 followed by an ole 3). Just sick! Not sure it's my fav, but sick none the less.

(jcv) · (jcv) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 09-19-2006, 6:40 AM

gotta give SOB some love with his KGB 5 or heel 7 off a roller

(dfwharvey) · (dfwharvey) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 09-19-2006, 5:44 PM

Whirly 7...an invert and a 7. It is one less spin than a 10 but a whirly 7 is inverted and to me that is just insane.

(antbug) · (antbug) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-19-2006, 5:50 PM

I have to say the OO9 is the sickest trick too. Matt Sims makes it look so smooth!

(magellan) · (magellan) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 09-19-2006, 5:51 PM

Andrew's nose monkey nine is rad.
For those who are trick skiers, the heelside nosegrab mobius 540.

(melanie) · (melanie) **Join Date: Apr 2001** 09-19-2006, 5:57 PM

Tai Pan HS BS 3.

Shut up Thane

*Kidding*

(socalwakepunk) · (socalwakepunk) **Join Date: Dec 2002** 09-19-2006, 7:53 PM

Not really sure what I'd call "best Trick ever", but I prefer stupidly big tricks/style over technical tricks (don't get me wrong, the 1080 is quite an accomplishment). Method HS Front to revert over another rider big. 20' Whirlybird off the Dub big. Poked Indy Air Rickey G. big.

(ralph) · (ralph) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 09-19-2006, 8:06 PM

What about Randy's 20ft Method in NBT. Probably best ever trick for me.

(westcoastripper)

i have to say a wrapped ts bs 7 off the dub by randy

(malibuboarder75)

What video did he do a ts bs 7 off the dub? I know he does ts bs 5's.

(buffalow) · (buffalow) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 09-20-2006, 2:38 PM

I have mad respect for all of those insane tricks, but I'll still take a correct stalefish 180, mute TS 5 or even and oldschool crail tantrum. Schwenne's TS Double Grab BS 3 might be one of the sickest tricks I have ever flmed.

In the end, I guess any push for the sport is a good one. Can anyone say 1440 time or triple invert?

(srh00z) · (srh00z) **Join Date: Jun 2003** 09-20-2006, 2:41 PM

I'll throw in a vote for Matt Sims' 009, I can remember being blown away by that clip.

(riz) · (riz) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 09-20-2006, 3:10 PM

What was that toeside whirly Parks did in 6 Pack called? (not a big worm)--or how about the whirly 720 from Shafted?

(bill) · (bill) **Join Date: Feb 2001** 09-20-2006, 3:40 PM

Basically a ts trick like a whirly is called a "Diesel" the big worm is one version maybe a 360 and the diesel is a 540 rotation or vice versa.

(wakeeater2003) · (wakeeater2003) **Join Date: Mar 2004** 09-20-2006, 4:24 PM

Not really. The move parks does in six pack is an actual toeside backside three rotation with no handle pass. A big worm is a toesdie frontside 540 with no handle pass and a diesal is a toeside frontside three with no handle pass. I don't know what the hell the thing parks does is called. Later BCP Mike

(wakeboard19) · (wakeboard19) **Join Date: Apr 2005** 09-20-2006, 4:46 PM

1080 BEST TRICK SO FAR!!

(bill) · (bill) **Join Date: Feb 2001** 09-20-2006, 5:59 PM

BCP "lIke" meaning similar but not exact

a whirly is basically a hs flip/invert with no handle pass blind 360/540/720 etc when i watch the big worm or Diesel it looks more like a flip/invert do to how far off axis the spin gets with the handle being ole'd over the riders head..it looks a lot like a whirly ,it may not be exactly a tantrum with a backside rotation w/no handle pass but in full speed motion it appears to be ts whirly especially to and unknowing spectator ..

hence a lot of people watching these tricks call it such..

(joe_788) · (joe_788) **Join Date: Aug 2003** 09-20-2006, 6:10 PM

Two or three weeks ago on one of the new episodes of Pull, Collin Wright does a huge stalefish shifty and then brings it all the way back to a backside 180. It was one of the best tricks I've ever seen. Gregg Necrason's double grab 180s in "Tomorrow" are also ridiculous.

(clubjoe) · (clubjoe) **Join Date: Sep 2005** 09-20-2006, 7:44 PM

Some of the "best" tricks I've -SEEN- were not the hardest to do (for those that can ACTUALLY DO THEM

).....

The tricks were big, looked like they were in slow-motion and had a lot of personality....Style gets way more points from me as a spectator.

(aden_g) · (aden_g) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 09-20-2006, 8:22 PM

A toeside frontside 540 with no handlepass was a scarecrow, last I checked. Although at one competition I was judging, I got in trouble for writing "scarecrow" when the guy protested, claiming he did a TS FS OA ole 5. Stupidest thing I have ever heard.

I thought a diesel was a double scarecrow (or as in.. going around twice). I have been known to be wrong before, however.

And I still stand by my previous comment.

(northslidin) · (northslidin) **Join Date: Mar 2005** 09-20-2006, 10:19 PM

Something about Matt Sims 009 keeps me watching the video over and over again, it gets my vote since there is video of it. We will have to wait to see Harf's 1080 video and then it might be a different story.

rizzle 09-20-2006, 10:23 PM

that ts whirly came from a ts backroll with an overhead bs 360 rotation--similar to harf's blind pete....how bout the double s-bend or s-bend 720?

(jay_j) · (jay_j) **Join Date: Apr 2005** 09-20-2006, 11:53 PM

double s-bend ..... SIC!!!!

(jcv) · (jcv) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 09-21-2006, 7:29 AM

The best trick I've ever seen in person was at TSR. Tom Fooshee took a switch toeside raley cut at the launch ramp and, not only did he go higher than I've ever seen anybody go on boat or cable, he did a switch ts bs oa grabbed 3. Just for kicks, he threw a half cab 9, backside 7, pete 5, what looked to be a blind pete, and a 540 to 50-50 transfer onto the a-frame with a blind 180 out all before falling.

here's the video of parks' double half cab mobe for the 2 or 3 people who haven't seen it:

http://www.riderscartel.com/clip_info.aspx?vcid=2136

and here's one of SOB's videos with the heel 7 off a roller and a slop heel 9:

http://orlandowakeboard.com/wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=179

(timmy) · (timmy) **Join Date: Jul 2001** 09-21-2006, 7:38 AM

Anything tindy is the best!

(jason_ssr) · (jason_ssr) **Join Date: Apr 2001** 09-21-2006, 7:59 AM

Best trickas are tricks you see that nobody else can chase or duplicate. Everyone who does 9's has it in their mind to progress to a 1080. All the spinners will be pushing for it. It is adding a 180 to a relatively common trick. Hard? VERY!!! But lacks in the best trick ever catagory.

The double back mobe will never be duplicated. It is so far beyond the ability of the remaining best riders in the world that none even comtemplate and try at it. You can name the biggest baddest names there are and nobody would even consider an attempt.

(uppledup17) · (uppledup17) **Join Date: Sep 2005** 09-21-2006, 8:07 AM

"will never be duplicated", that's a pretty bold statement. One of the sickest moves ever but I am sure somebody would at least make an attempt.

(jason_ssr) · (jason_ssr) **Join Date: Apr 2001** 09-21-2006, 8:36 AM

Its just not the direction wakeboarding is going. No need to try it. Double inverts are a freak move. Very few ever try them nor aspire to land them. Even fewer consider a double to revert, and a double to mobe is just so far off the radar that it takes a kid who has been on the water all his life that happens to be strong as an ox, and tops at his craft to even consider it much less land it.

Ive seen a handful of 1080 attempts from pros and Am's alike. While it is virtually impossible to land, it isnt that hard to try. most of the big pro's have tried it. How many you think even comtemplate trying a switch double back mobe?

(malibuboarder75)

Ive seen double invert attempts from a lot of pros. I have seen Rusty in Running on Empty go for a double half cab roll. He was really close, and I doubt he ever goes for them. Sure, that isnt the direction of wakeboarding, but you know some freak kid will go for them because he has learned everything else on a wakeboard.