best way to weight an 03 mc x2

(lakesideriders)

just wanted to get some inputs on the best ways to weight an 2003 mc x2

(bigpapaf1f) · (bigpapaf1f) **Join Date: May 2005** 09-11-2006, 2:07 PM

I think the best way is, 1000lbs of lead all around the boat, a 600lbs sac in the bow, and ballest. If you do that you will be VERY VERY HAPPY with your wake!! IMO With that set up, there is not a better wake on the market!!

(big_xstar) · (big_xstar) **Join Date: Nov 2004** 09-11-2006, 2:52 PM

Ask Big ed or any of the C.I.E guys.
they have them dialed!!

(wakeslife) · (wakeslife) **Join Date: Jul 2005** 09-11-2006, 3:04 PM

How much weight are you guys running in the nose... I'm having problems keeping it clean and I think its because I'm not running enough up front.

(bigpapaf1f) · (bigpapaf1f) **Join Date: May 2005** 09-11-2006, 3:20 PM

Put a 500 or 600lbs sac, plus lead and factory. It will keep it clean and the nose down, I ride with the CIE boys and the F1F crew (X1)! All are stupid big and clean!!

(big_ed_x2) · (big_ed_x2) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-11-2006, 3:21 PM

Depending how much weight you want to run....

I pretty much run 60% front 40% back.With people generally being in the cockpit,you want a little more up front.In the winter I run a little more up front as well since nobody is in the bow.With about 1,000lbs over stock I put approx. 600lbs in the bow.In the bow meaning from the center ballast forward.

(guido) · (guido) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 09-11-2006, 4:10 PM

Yeah, all depends how big you want the wake. We started with 130 in lead in the far back of the rear compartments (one each side) and a 500 sac in the nose and worked from there.

Now we're running about another 300 of lead in the nose under the seats, 100 of lead in the front of the rear compartments, and another 200 or so spread around the inside of the boat evenly.

If we're running a smaller crew I'll sub the 500 in the nose for a 600, then run the 500 on the floor in the center of the boat. That gets it as big as anyone I've ever ridden with could ask for. If you're running anywhere under 75' of rope and 24 mph this set up could be pretty extreme. It also makes the boat sit pretty low. We got stuck sitting in the wash of 3 boats last weekend and took a lot of water over the bow. That's kinda rare, but you do have to drive defensively to keep the boat floating.

(matt_s) · (matt_s) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 09-11-2006, 4:18 PM

Sorry to hijac, with the extra lead it makes it a constant...non drianable...duh, I'm a bit tenarded! So how does that affect trailering, do you just set the trailer deeper? Trial and error?
Matt

(cboom12) · (cboom12) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-11-2006, 6:14 PM

we have a problrm with our x2 porpoising, I think it is because we put to much weight on the rear has any one expierienced this?

(san210nut) · (san210nut) **Join Date: Sep 2006** 09-11-2006, 10:05 PM

A really good way to get a good wake out of a X2 is to tow a SAN 210 behind it...

(derekcook) · (derekcook) **Join Date: Apr 2005** 09-11-2006, 11:12 PM

stock ballast + 14 bars of lead (75 pounds each) 4 in the back, 6 middle, 4 nose + 1000 pound sack in bow + 1000 pound sack down the middle + 4 people = 4000+ pounds of fun

D Cook

(wakesetter101) · (wakesetter101) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 09-12-2006, 4:59 AM

Red now thats funny.

Not.

(jarrod) · (jarrod) **Join Date: May 2003** 09-12-2006, 6:54 AM

Chris, if that boat is porpoising, you definitely need more in the nose.

Evan and I were running our boats pretty close. I think he is running a few hundred pounds heavier than I now, but I recently changed mine around and I'm a lot happier.

I junked the rear hard tanks, and the extra 400 pounds of lead in the back (200 each side). Now I run a 400 pound Pro x sac on each side. At the end of the day, I drop 100% of the rear weight and cruise home without hauling around a bunch of lead. Also, when I tow to lake, I have 400 pounds less and double the storage to hide boards and other gear in the rear lockers.

Total:

400 in each rear locker
100 in lead in the cooler over the v-drive
200 on the floor to correct passenger balance
400 factory ski locker
550 in the walk through
325 in lead in the nose.

I'm currenty running 2350 total

(jarrod) · (jarrod) **Join Date: May 2003** 09-12-2006, 6:58 AM

Red: Is that why I see so many SANs being towed in? I thought they were just broken down.

I don't know about 4000 pounds in an X1/X2. I thought the wake turned to crap long before I reached that much weight. We nearly sunk mine.

(guido) · (guido) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 09-12-2006, 8:18 AM

Derek definitely slams the hell out of his boat. I know we could probably get a few hundred more in our boats, but I'm still not sure about a real 4k. When we almost sunk Jarrods boat we were running around 23-2400 of ballast and we had 8-10 people on board, so I guess that would've gotten us past the 4k mark, but no matter what we did when the boat came off plane the bow went straight under water. Once we drained the factory ballast we were OK. IMO 3k plus riders is my threshold.

As far as towing... My lead is all balanced around the boat so the tongue weight stays the same. You do end up with another thousand pounds on the trailer. I'm not at all worried about my truck towing it, but I'm a bit careful over bumps and I make sure my trailer tires are properly inflated before long trips. For the most part though our boats go 100 yards to the water and back so there isn't much towing involved.

I really like what Jarrod did with the bags, plus it gets weight out of the back of the boat to eliminate porpoising when you aren't riding (no lead to drag along). The only downer is that you still have to leave the 300ish pounds of lead under the front seats, so you end up with 300lbs more tongue weight and a bit more trouble running the boat up the trailer. Probably not an issue if your hauling with a 3/4 ton truck (or bigger), but may not work for some with lighter duty trucks. You may have to move the lead to the middle of the boat for hauling.

(99xstar) · (99xstar) **Join Date: Aug 2005** 09-12-2006, 8:42 AM

Same hull, no stock but:

I put a 550lb sac on each side of the engine.
400lb sac on the floor of the bow (comes through the walkway).
2 350lb sacs on the seat of the bow.
2,200 of water.

So far it's been a good set up with just a driver. It's also been good with up to 6 people in the boat. Nobody can sit in the bow, but the wake has been good at 24mph and 75'.

Just thought you'd like to hear a set up without lead.

Don't mean to Jack, but I have a quick question: How does lead differ from using water. It's obviously easier and faster. I'm wondering about how it sinks the boat. Since it's less buoyant, is less weight required? And is the ratio like 70lbs of lead is the same as 100lbs of water?

(guido) · (guido) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 09-12-2006, 8:54 AM

Weight is weight.... The boyancy doesn't matter unless it's sitting in the water. The difference is that most 500lb sacs really only hold about 300lbs depending on where you put them. With 500lbs of lead you know exactly how much it weighs

(99xstar) · (99xstar) **Join Date: Aug 2005** 09-12-2006, 9:47 AM

Thanks Evan.

(fbroen) · (fbroen) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 09-12-2006, 10:55 AM

Not sure there is a "best" way, but this works well for us:

-Stock ballast (~250 pounds each rear locker tank, ~400 pounds ski-locker sack)
-One 250 pound side sack each rear locker
-Custom integrated bow sack that runs from the kickpanel by the driver around under the bow "triangle" and back down the other side -- guestimating about 500 pounds.
-160 pounds of lead by kickpanel / space under dash.
-240 pounds of lead toward the front rear lockers.
-Sometimes a fatbuddy in walkway ~250.

So a total of about 2300 - 2550 pounds.

(lakesideriders)

C.I.E. i would like it pretty big so what is the best way to to that

(wakeslife) · (wakeslife) **Join Date: Jul 2005** 09-12-2006, 2:47 PM

Ryan I think most of the guys on here are going for a big wake...

(andrew_dyrhood)

440's in rear , t-bone a 550 and 440 in the nose, 6 or so people and you'll be set

(ronnyboy27) · (ronnyboy27) **Join Date: Nov 2005** 09-12-2006, 3:34 PM

Is the 03 the same as the 04

(dfwharvey) · (dfwharvey) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 09-12-2006, 4:55 PM

In my 06 X1 I run about 1900 lbs total and with 4 or 5 people it is more than most riders need. I run two 550 sacks in the back, 775 in the front for a total of 1875. I know the weigh because I can calculate volume of a geometric shape. If I fill them to the max then I might get 25 lbs extra out of them. The bags do tend to stretch a little when filled to the brim.

I need to get another 200 lbs in the bow to help get my ratio around 50/50. Lead would be better for the space.

(kybool) · (kybool) **Join Date: Aug 2004** 09-12-2006, 6:08 PM

Thanks for the tips guys, going to work on mine this weekend!

(simply_peter) · (simply_peter) **Join Date: Sep 2004** 09-12-2006, 6:11 PM

Are you still running stock props with the additional ballast?

(andrew_dyrhood)

get it a little nose heavy if you can. It gives the wake more pop. I've run a stock prop with 3,500 in the boat. It walks,but its not too bad.

(big_ed_x2) · (big_ed_x2) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-12-2006, 11:21 PM

12, 2006 - 11:12 pm:

quote:
get it a little nose heavy if you can. It gives the wake more pop.

I could not agree more.This is what I try to tell people,nicer wake plus easier out of the hole.

(rake) · (rake) **Join Date: Jun 2003** 09-13-2006, 8:27 AM

Pulled the stock tanks, Pro-x 750's in the rear. stock center bag, bow bag, 350 or so in pop bags under the bow filler cushion, 300 or so in pop bags in the cabin for balance. Nose rides low, you have to be on it all the time and can't really do less than 23 with that much weight but the wake is great. Changed the prop to an Acme 1235.

(jarrod) · (jarrod) **Join Date: May 2003** 09-13-2006, 8:35 AM

I'm not so worried about 300 pounds of tonque weight while towing anymore.

(dizzyj) · (dizzyj) **Join Date: Jul 2003** 09-13-2006, 9:18 AM

prox 750's on each side of the engine
200 in lead on each side of the engine
(400?)stock center ballast
600 lbs of lead in the nose under the seats

~3000lbs, and a fat sick wake with no problem getting on plane, and no nose diving. plus a nice steep wake. (my 210 owning friends love riding on my boat)