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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Minnesnowda
05-28-2008, 11:45 AM
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Yep it was landed by good old Phil Soven. Pure gnarliness!
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Join Date: Jul 2005
05-28-2008, 12:03 PM
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Video comning soon? You mean an ole method ten right?
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Minnesnowda
05-28-2008, 12:36 PM
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Alliance said it was a Melan.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
05-28-2008, 1:06 PM
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insane
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Join Date: May 2003
05-28-2008, 1:35 PM
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Wow, congrats to Soven. That's amazing....but I'd rather see a big backside 180 into the flats! NOT Crazy! Everyone just started doing Crow 5s.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Minnesnowda
05-28-2008, 1:44 PM
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I hope it makes its way into his contest run!
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05-28-2008, 1:59 PM
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was it off the wake?
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Join Date: Apr 2006
05-28-2008, 2:10 PM
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I think he should add a double grab...
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Join Date: Jun 2001
05-28-2008, 2:46 PM
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Just started doing crow 5's? Wasn't Murray doing those in Mayday back in the late 90's? I guess Parks was doing 1080's (one) way back then too though, and it's just now beginning to be landed by others. I want to see this crow mobe 7!
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Join Date: Nov 2005
05-28-2008, 2:47 PM
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Awesome! Congrats Mate!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
05-28-2008, 2:48 PM
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dude....thats HUGE!!!!!! AHH!
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Join Date: Feb 2003
05-28-2008, 3:28 PM
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i think jarrod meant there have been alot of poeple that have been landing crow 5s lately that didnt have them in the past.
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Join Date: May 2006
05-28-2008, 3:35 PM
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Thanks guys wow news travels fast. Yesterday my roomate Aaron Rathy and I were riding doubles when I decided to try it. I fell on the first two. I told one of the guys in the boat to film this one on his Iphone. I ended up landing that one but the video was not clear. Today Shane Bonifay brought his camera out and we captured two wake to wake melon crow 7s. It will hopefully be ready for competition soon I have been landing every other one I try I am currently 3 for 6 in 2 sets. The video should be up by tonight or tommorow. One of them turned out looking alot like an ole 10 but the first and second ones were legit crow 7s. I will check this post again after the video is posted hope you all enjoy it.......more to come crow 7 is just 1 down on the list.
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Join Date: May 2005
05-28-2008, 3:40 PM
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Nice Phillip, cant wait to see the vid!! Congrats!!
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Join Date: Apr 2007
05-28-2008, 3:59 PM
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By Trevor (hawk7) on Sunday, May 25, 2008 - 7:26 pm: "...the biggest spin/flip/mobe ie 1080, tempertantrum, crow mobe 7 [I hear someone was close]..." I KNEW IT! That sounds sick! ... I didn't know soven had a WW account...
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Join Date: Aug 2005
05-28-2008, 4:56 PM
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Trevor, He has had one for 7 days with a total of 8 posts. Try to keep up would you? See ya at Bell Aqua.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
05-28-2008, 5:10 PM
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Wrong Again Vince!! Registered: May 21, 2006 Total Posts: 8 see ya there.
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Join Date: Jul 2001
05-28-2008, 5:27 PM
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That is awesome man! congrats!
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Join Date: Apr 2008
05-28-2008, 6:11 PM
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I remember seeing him at the 1997 World's and thinking when this kid grows up he's going to be killing it
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Join Date: Jun 2003
05-28-2008, 6:48 PM
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Can't wait to see the footage. Congrats! Here's to progression!
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Join Date: Sep 2007
05-28-2008, 7:23 PM
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Sick dude!! Phillip please learn the KGB 7 next, I've always wanted to see it. haha, i'm sure you'll do it just for me Trevor, i read your post the other day and thought..."what, i haven't heard of anyone coming close to crow 7's?" ... Touché
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Join Date: May 2003
05-28-2008, 8:52 PM
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Congrats, Soven. I'm even more impressed that you have already landed 3! Looking forward to seeing this is Reno. Mobe 5s and Toe 9s were landed years ago, but it seems like everyone is doing them these days. Way to stay one step ahead.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Australia
05-28-2008, 10:50 PM
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No matter what anyone says, that is simply amazing progression I'm really looking forward to seeing the video. Congratulations Phillip!
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Join Date: Aug 2006
05-29-2008, 1:04 AM
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hahahahahahaha! WHAT A FREAK!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
05-29-2008, 2:03 AM
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you will get it soon mitch!
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Join Date: Jan 2003
05-29-2008, 4:45 AM
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Phil, It's about time you stepped up your game! Glad to see that talk in the Atlanta airport paid off. You have something new for us on the double up this weekend too? Just kidding. Congrats man.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
05-29-2008, 8:30 AM
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and mitch langfield has a WW too!!?? Dave, I do my share of diggin. I think it was last years double or nothin alliance wrote about it and somewhere in it said "...trying 1080s, double inverts, crow sevens,..." I was wondering how a crow 7 would look like an ol'e 10?
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Join Date: Jan 1997
05-29-2008, 9:45 AM
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Here's the video: http://www.wakeworld.com/Galleries/GetImage.asp?GalleryID=600&ImageID=9 Big thanks to Phillip, Aaron Rathy and Shane Bonifay!
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Join Date: May 2005
05-29-2008, 9:47 AM
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Man he stuck it sooooo clean, very nice Phillip!!
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Join Date: Oct 2007
05-29-2008, 9:53 AM
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F'in crazy
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Minnesnowda
05-29-2008, 9:55 AM
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Wow that was perfect! Cant wait to see that be a contest staple.
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Join Date: Jun 2004
05-29-2008, 9:55 AM
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Nice vid! Looked awesome.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 10:10 AM
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And people say he has no style! Watch out Phillip there may be some haters coming out soon. And by the way that was freaking sick!
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Join Date: Jul 2002
05-29-2008, 10:14 AM
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That was frickin' retarded... Good stuff, man. That's a serious move. Wow!!
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Join Date: Aug 2006
05-29-2008, 10:48 AM
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Very nice indeed. I admit I'm not to tech savy with tricks, not even sure what a mobe is. But can someone explain the difference between this move and a ts off axis 7 since there is no actual flip involved?
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Join Date: Jun 2003
05-29-2008, 10:52 AM
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Actually there is. Technically it is a toeside melon frontroll 720. A regular mobius is a backroll 360. A crow mobe is a TS Frontroll 360. A scarecrow or "crow" is a TS frontroll 180. Hope that helps.
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Join Date: Jul 2003
05-29-2008, 10:58 AM
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agreed. doesnt look like a mobe. but sick.
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Join Date: Apr 2002
05-29-2008, 10:59 AM
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WOW
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05-29-2008, 11:00 AM
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unreal, he is spinning so damn fast at the end
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 11:19 AM
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i don't like to argue with the best in the sport, but i'm pretty sure a mobe is an invert with a 360 (or more) rotation. What Soven did was unreal, but I think it should be considered an ole' spin or something else. I don't really see an invert in there...maybe someone else can elaborate..there is def. not a ts frontroll in there so i don't see how this is a crow...just my .02
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 11:22 AM
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^^ Like I said here come the haters.
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Join Date: Oct 2007
05-29-2008, 11:25 AM
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SICK!!!!!!!
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Join Date: Aug 2006
05-29-2008, 11:26 AM
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I havn't seen it yet (no quicktime at work) but it's either a crow mobe 7 or an Ole` 1080. If people want to split hairs, hell I think I'd rather claim the Ole` 1080 anyway... Ever seen Tino's crow 5? I've seen toeside 5's that get more off axis than he does and I still consider his a crow mobe 5 and not an "Ole` 9". Whatever... Bad ass trick dude keep pushing it... Is this the first mobe 7 ever? I think so..
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 11:30 AM
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Jay, who's hating? the only thing I hate is people that need some drama to fill there day...I was just looking for some clarification on what Soven just did...it was unreal, and if I were him, I'd be claimin that trick hard as the the first grabbed 1080 ever caught on film...but then, of course, that would bring on the haters, wouldn't it?
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Join Date: Aug 2006
05-29-2008, 11:35 AM
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bro, he is inverted if you pause it. Yea, it's a little out the back, but damn, sick!
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Join Date: Jun 2001
05-29-2008, 11:51 AM
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Off-axis spinning has really muddied the waters between spins and flips. I look at Andrew A's back mobe and HS o/a 7...they look idential in axis but one he pulls the handle over his head and one he passes. All that to say that this new trick is flippin' sweet!
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 11:51 AM
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So what now I am causing drama? That makes me laugh. Actually if you look at the pic on the front page he is upside down which from my understanding of invert, means upside down or inside out and I am pretty sure he not inside out but that would be one hell of a trick. (Message edited by cbass on May 29, 2008)
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Join Date: Jun 2001
05-29-2008, 11:56 AM
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A 900 is 2 1/2. A 1080 is 3.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 11:58 AM
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Jay, quick math lesson, 360+360= 720. 360+360+360=1080. seriously...a 1080 is 3 rotations. please see Sovens post in this same thread, where he refers to his amazing feat as "looking alot like an ole' 1080." lets put 'er to rest, ok?
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Join Date: Sep 2006
05-29-2008, 12:01 PM
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Jay Williams, you might want to retake geometry. 1080 = 360 + 360 + 360. Thats 3 full rotations. Anyways that trick is ridiculous. I thought I was cool for landing my first crow mobe yesterday hahaha. (Message edited by shredsickgnar on May 29, 2008)
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 12:05 PM
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Ya I figured that out after I posted it. My bad.
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Join Date: Jun 2004
05-29-2008, 12:11 PM
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So what defines if a trick is an invert? I always figured it was an invert if the board goes over your head. In this case the center of the board goes over the head. Is there an actual definition of invert?
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Join Date: Feb 2006
05-29-2008, 12:15 PM
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That kid is a freak of nature. landed 3rd attemp...I thought I was cool when I landed my TS 5 2nd attempt. I love the interview "We're going out tomorrow so we'll get it on film"
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 12:25 PM
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Q. What's the difference between a roll and a flip? A. A roll is when the board goes end over end (toeside over heelside or heelside over toeside), whereas a flip is when the board goes tip over tail. The definition of a roll and a flip, in wakeboarding, is based on the motion of the board, not the rider. So what seems like a flip to a gymnast (the rider does a somersault-like move) is a roll to a wakeboarder as the board goes end-over-end (i.e. a backroll). And what seems like a cartwheel to a gymnast, is a flip to a wakeboarder as the board goes tip-over-tail (i.e. front flip). this is right off of the ww site,and i think it does a good job of breaking down the two diff. types of inverts. hope it helps. having the board over your head (i.e. raley, o/a spin, glide, etc.) does not constitute an invert... but like eubanks said...its a lil muddied...anyways, we (myself included) should really just quit caring and send some props out to Soven for his new trick, whatever HE wants to call it. (Message edited by to_blind on May 29, 2008)
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 12:27 PM
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^^ Word
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05-29-2008, 12:31 PM
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Good job froggy! that video is sick...especially cause it has two different stomps of the same trick. already consistant. sick
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Join Date: May 2005
05-29-2008, 12:34 PM
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a buddy of mine brought this up...thats no melan grab. its nelan (nose melan). melan is between the feet. i'm not taking anything away from the trick, its nuts, but my bud has an issue with claiming tricks that aren't quite what they should be haha.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 12:42 PM
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haha poor soven...his new sweet trick is just getting picked apart by a bunch of weekend warriors on WakeWorld... invert/no invert, mobe/spin, grab here/there, whatever, its flippin sweet. no pun intended.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Minnesnowda
05-29-2008, 12:46 PM
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I cannot believe how much pop he get off the wake, any idea who's boat they were riding behind? He takes that so straight up its crazy.
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Join Date: Dec 2007
05-29-2008, 1:05 PM
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wow
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Join Date: Oct 2006
05-29-2008, 1:22 PM
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David F, I don't think it's the first mobe 7 ever. I'm pretty sure he also has a whirly 7
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Join Date: May 2003
05-29-2008, 1:36 PM
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It's the first front mobe 7. And it was grabbed
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Join Date: Jun 2006
05-29-2008, 1:44 PM
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VERY NICE!!!
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Join Date: Jun 2002
05-29-2008, 2:01 PM
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I love the looks of the whirly 7, the spin is so fast.
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Join Date: Jun 2001
05-29-2008, 2:30 PM
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Nice work. A wake 10 can't be too far behind...
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Join Date: Oct 2007
05-29-2008, 2:34 PM
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I think B-Hutton has got dibs on the wake to wake 1080. Came supper close on the thirds video with him awhile back.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
05-29-2008, 2:36 PM
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From Phillip up above "One of them turned out looking alot like an ole 10 but the first and second ones were legit crow 7s." Imagine critiquing yourself so much that you split hairs like that. Just a PRO-DI-GY!!! Nicely done Phillip!!!
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05-29-2008, 2:44 PM
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Dope!!
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05-29-2008, 2:45 PM
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sovens a beast!
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2008, 2:47 PM
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he is the next step in evolution
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Join Date: Jun 2001
05-29-2008, 2:49 PM
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Andy - You know that sick wake has to be his Malibu.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
05-29-2008, 2:54 PM
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PUFFY I DARE YOU TO TRY A W2W SW TS 1080}
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Join Date: May 2005
05-29-2008, 2:58 PM
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Andy that looks like the new Nauti 210 wake.
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Location: Minnesnowda
05-29-2008, 3:31 PM
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ohhhhh Eubanks and innov8 square off!
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Join Date: Sep 2006
05-29-2008, 3:43 PM
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That is one off the list....back side 9 next? Incredible stuff.
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05-29-2008, 3:47 PM
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Hahahah, you kill me Andy. Looks like a Nauti wake to me. Let us know what wake Phillip. (Message edited by innov8 on May 29, 2008)
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Join Date: Apr 2007
05-29-2008, 4:01 PM
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Ole or Crow, wouldn't they both be 10's? or is that first "ole" technically the flip...?
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Minnesnowda
05-29-2008, 4:02 PM
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with the crew they were riding with it could have been any boat.
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Join Date: Sep 2007
05-29-2008, 4:07 PM
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Did anyone else notice that one wake was opened and the other was a little crumbled? do you think he was doing the old 'turn the boat a little for less line tension' trick that i learnt about on W.W?
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Join Date: Apr 2007
05-29-2008, 4:15 PM
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Ahah! Cheater Cheater Pumpkin Eater!! no, they did a turn-around after he landed, they were deffinately going straight. also, the wake crumbles on the left bacause he is cutting on the right.
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