http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/264191.html http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87668/288446.html I am one of the biggest proponents and advocates of wakesurfing, if you will take even a moment to review the threads above, I was deeply involved in encouraging Skier's Choice, Inc's change in policy regarding wakesurfing. I have spent well over 10,000 of my own money organizing and promoting contests and encouraging growth of the sport. I have held discussions with Rick Stocks of the INT League in an effort to bring wakesurfing to that organization and was primarily responsible for organizing the first wakesurfing series. Your generalization that I question everything and look for the bad is without merit. I would presume that your wish is that I and everyone else not question anything? Ignorance is somehow going to help the evolution of the sport?
You, J.L. seem to wish me quited. If I have an opinion that is contrary to yours, as long as I "shut up" we are good? That somehow allows for evolution of the sport? Seems to me more along the lines of YOUR opinion being the only one that matters.
You are promoting Josh, and his grinding tour in this thread. If Josh were to post it directly, it would be deleted as an advertisement. Yes, I am of the opinion that Josh could have done a bit more for wakesurfing. That's my opinion, I'm not going to supress it because Nick calls me names and you J.L. disagree with it. Nor am I of the opinion that it serves anyone to dish accolades.
This forum IS about wakesurfing, there are myriad other mediums for the promotion and discussion of other sports, brotherhood of boards sports or not.
My point is advocacy. I don't remember anyone stepping up behind me when I was having the discussions with Skier's Choice, Inc and their FORMER opinion that wakesurfing not be allowed behind any boat, certainly not you J.L. or Nick - perhaps I should have allowed that to evovle also J.L.? Or is it just selective evolution you want - so long as I agree with your opinion. IMO, that's nonsense and I can't imagine how anything can effectively evolve without a free flow of ideas.
IMO, Fuel TV could have done more with the wakesurfing footage that J.L. provided. If we sit idly by and say - wow they mentioned it, good enough -- there is NO incentive for change. I also believe that Josh as a personality within the sport could have done more to get a tiny little bit of footage aired. If everyone says - that's ok, don't worry about it...again there isn't any incentive to change.
Nick, and really you J.L., attack me personally because you don't like my opinion. What is that about? I would be HAPPY to discuss the merits of allowing a free discussion of ideas and opinions, J.L. my understanding is that you are in favor of selective censorship. I am not. Nick, I'm not quite sure how this became personal that you decided it was necessary to start calling me names, but again, I am going to push for advocacy. That will often put me contrary to positions of consensus which will further raise awareness and change behaviors.
I do so appreciate your assitance in this regard, gentlemen.