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Join Date: Mar 2008
07-07-2008, 1:51 PM
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Knowing that we all guard our 'bags' more than our wives and girlfriends.....the Evan and Al thread earlier got me laughing. How many times do you have to land a trick before its officially in the bag? The CIE guys say 3?(or said 3 to Mike sorry If I'm mispeaking here) Back in the day when I got my boat we were all floating and drinking and figured it was 6, so thats always stuck on my boat. Mind you this wasnt based on any scientific or otherwise useful data/scale...Just 6!! What's ur number? hahahahaha
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Join Date: Jun 2007
07-07-2008, 1:56 PM
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I say it depends on the trick, but usually when I learn something new I try to land it twice that day. If I don't get it twice in one day, then I would say 3 is my number.
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Join Date: May 2007
07-07-2008, 1:56 PM
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A new trick counts at 2...and is reliably stomped at 15-20 landings or so and everything inbetween is still a gamble.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
07-07-2008, 1:58 PM
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Mine was 3 too before I went to college. Then I had those days where I could land just about anything and everything... but the trick wouldn't come back, sometimes ever. I'd say 30+ nowadays.......
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Join Date: May 2003
07-07-2008, 2:07 PM
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1. Luck 2. Coincidence 3. Skill Still....I like to land 5 before I say it's in the bag, and even then....stuff comes and goes.
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Join Date: Oct 2007
07-07-2008, 2:08 PM
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After ten some what consecutively or you lose count is what i always considered in the bag. If you can't throw it down just about whenever I think it's still being worked on. But that's just me ramblin.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
07-07-2008, 2:11 PM
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If you can land it consistently, it's in the bag. If it's still a toss-up, then it doesn't matter how many times you have landed it before, it's not in the bag.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
07-07-2008, 2:15 PM
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I say It Must be Three Consecutive Sets, i.e. different days. Maybe it's just me but there is only one trick I can always do, no matter what, bad conditions, etc. and that is a half cab which is even more consistant than my heelside 2 wake jump, I thought I had a s/w t/s 3 on lock, 5 consecutive sets, landed 8 times, and lately I've been spinning to early, going off axis, and falling, so I'd say it's out of the bag, has that ever happend to anyone else?
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Join Date: Jul 2002
07-07-2008, 2:22 PM
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ha, ha, ha.... I guess I had to know this thread was coming after the other one. When I can land a trick first try every set, then I know I truly own it. Otherwise, I agree with Jarrod: 1. luck 2. coincidence 3. skill
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Join Date: Jan 2004
07-07-2008, 3:41 PM
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Yea it is never about how many you've landed. It is about how many out of how many you can land, the percentage. Now the percentage can be debatable. I'd say 80-90% and it's in the bag.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
07-07-2008, 3:57 PM
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I like to land it at least twice before saying "i've landed it" but "in the bag" depends more on consistency than times landed.
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Join Date: Nov 2002
07-07-2008, 4:03 PM
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I usually land a trick twice before I say I landed it. Then I'd say 5 or 6 times with very few falls before I say I can do the trick. But most of the time I say nothing at all and pull it out of my secret bag when wanted. The Bag must be kept sacred. (Message edited by kristian on July 07, 2008)
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Join Date: Sep 2006
07-07-2008, 4:13 PM
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i usually like to hit something a few times in a row...same set same day...then come back and do it again another day or two and then i'll say i can do it...i usually put it in the bag and never do it again...hahahah
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Layton, Utah
07-07-2008, 4:35 PM
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When I started riding back in the early 90's, before you could claim you had a trick "in the bag", you had to stick it 5 times IN A ROW. It didn't count if it wasn't in succession.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
07-07-2008, 5:35 PM
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We always have said that you have to land 3 in a row to truly claim it.
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Join Date: Jan 2004
07-07-2008, 8:22 PM
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I think 3 is too few, unless it is three in a day, and 3 days in a row. I once did 3 heel 5s in a row, then lost the trick for two years... "In the bag" to me means its your warm up trick, or the one you know you'l land 9 out of 10 times.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
07-07-2008, 8:36 PM
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For me it's time. If I can do it every time I try it for a month straight then I can claim it.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
07-07-2008, 8:41 PM
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Maybe it's cause I don't ride as much as some of you guys, but I feel like I have a large "bag" of tricks but about half of them take me at least 2 tries to land on any given day. So I'd say if you've landed a trick more than once, it is "in the bag" of tricks you can pull out. If thats not the case I don't have very many tricks in my bag.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
07-07-2008, 9:12 PM
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11 times out of 10 tries. then it will be in the bag
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Join Date: Aug 2006
07-07-2008, 10:05 PM
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2 to make it TRUE
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Join Date: Oct 2006
07-07-2008, 11:44 PM
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guess I suck, or have high expectations, but I have been riding for four years every week, and I have NOTHING in the bag. Not even wake to wake. nothing is what I want. Allways wish it was more clean, bigger or more consistant. I suck.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
07-08-2008, 6:42 AM
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Some friends of mine have discussed this ad nauseum, and have finally agreed that you have to land it 3 times, but at least one of those times needs to be behind a boat other than yours. And landing it behind an '03 X-2, then an '08 X-1 doesn't count. They need to at least throw a different wake.
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Join Date: Nov 2001
07-08-2008, 7:13 AM
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This is a good thread topic...I like it. I might be a bit harder on myself but I wont say I can "land" a trick until I've done 5. Its "in the bag" after I've landed atleast one a day for 5 consecutive days, for a total of 10. (after that I try to bring it up to a 90% consistency rate before I put it in my stock run)
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Join Date: Jul 2007
07-08-2008, 7:44 AM
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If you can land it consistently, it's in the bag. If it's still a toss-up, then it doesn't matter how many times you have landed it before, it's not in the bag. I agree 100%.Nicola has landed about 10 crowmobes and 5 or 6 handle pass KgB's.But these are not in the bag. Not by a long shot.Absolute lottery every time.
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Join Date: May 2005
07-08-2008, 8:22 AM
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I've landed one 3 each set i've gone out for the past three sets. Twice behind my boat and one behind an i/o. Still don't consider it in the bag. I consider 2/3 landed per set, in the bag.
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Join Date: Nov 2001
07-08-2008, 8:32 AM
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Oh and add to that: I gotta be able to land it first try of every set too.
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Join Date: Jun 2002
07-08-2008, 8:32 AM
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I think there are different levels of "in-the-bag" 1. riding with friends or free riding, your just having fun, no pressure, - if you land 50-70% its in the bag. 2. Competition riding - it's not in your run until your 100% confident you can land the trick under pressure. Many riders put tricks in at the end of a pass that they are not 100% confident on, you have to start somewhere, but you don't win competitions with tricks that you only land 50% of the time.
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Join Date: Nov 2001
07-08-2008, 8:36 AM
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George- I def. agree with you. In contests I go by Murphy's Law: What can go wrong will go wrong.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
07-08-2008, 9:13 AM
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When I told Mike 3 I ment 3 in a row, nothing in between.
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Join Date: Dec 2006
07-08-2008, 9:20 AM
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i agree with the 3 in a row.....
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Join Date: Jun 2008
07-21-2008, 7:39 PM
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and i did that. i actually got 5 before i tried it heel and fell on my face hahaha
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Join Date: Jul 2007
07-23-2008, 7:33 PM
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This is funny.. Since this thread started, when someone throws a new move, the driver or someone in the boat holds up a number (5..as in more times to go! haha. makes it fun)
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07-23-2008, 7:37 PM
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if you can land one you can do it again for sure.
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Join Date: Dec 2007
07-24-2008, 10:48 AM
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IMO, in the bag means being able to stick it consistently. I don't think its a certain number, because you could land 10 5's out of 100 tries, and to me that isn't "in the bag". However, that just my opinion.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
07-24-2008, 12:34 PM
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I would say that if you land a trick once on film than you can prove you have landed it. Putting it in the bag definitely requires consistently landing the trick. "Getting out of the water" is the only trick that I have in the bag.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
07-24-2008, 10:59 PM
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but what are the chances of landing 10 5s "in a row" out of 100 tries. it could happen, but if you can do 5 in a row. generally this means in the bag. and i think this rule should have a time limit as in one season. so if you did it 5 times in a row last season. you have to do it again to claim it still in the bag
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