So Grant - your own link proved that you were a liar and it was a racist lie meant to defame African Americans by implying that they owned black slaves. A lie meant to deflect from the racist behavior of white Americans before the civil war. You proved yourself a liar. I didn't label you a racist. You labeled yourself by saying something racist.
Anyone who listened to the diarrhea coming out of Trump's mouth for those 90 minutes and thinks he is capable of being president needs to have their head examined. That was unbelievable. No substance whatsoever, and style wise he just sniffed and interrupted like a serious ******* left and right. Also threw his running mate under the bus. Wow, serious implosion.
Not to mention the pathetic stunt he pulled with a press conference with Paula Jones and those other women.
And the constant bitching and moaning about moderators - man what a pu**y - maybe he should grab himself.
Right, you have to be a real super loser if you can't knock Trump out. Then again, she's such a disgusting candidate nobody can decide who is worse.
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Originally Posted by pesos
Because misogyny.
Sure, that's not sexist. Can't knock Kankles or you're a woman hater. Can't knock Obama or you're a racist. Hide behind the protected status and then claim to be a victim. Liberal playbook.
***** show at its best. Promoter's dream to get people so pitted against each other. Thanks professional politicians.
Maybe you should look up misogyny. A male candidate with Clinton's positions and past would be destroying Trump right now. As it is we may see an electoral landslide if he can't plug the hole. Maybe he should grab his campaign by the pussy.
OK, I take back my statement - Cliff is running neck and neck with Grant in the comedy department lol.
Cliff, he doesn't even understand how our system of government works - he thinks a junior senator from New York should be able to single handedly overhaul the tax code haha
Also, I'm not sure how you could listen to his answers on Aleppo and foreign policy and not smack your forehead.
Do you have daughters Cliff? Would you be cool with Trump grabbing their pussies? Or referring to them, as he did his own daughter, as a hot piece of ass?
who says I think someone can single handedly get anything done. I'm not sure where you got that. Yes, I have daughters. They are both very hot, and well versed on how men think. I have prepared them for life quite well, thank you.
I stand by my thoughts. I though Clinton looked tired, sometimes confused, and completely befuddled at times. I think she thinks that she is entitled, above the law, and that people ought to thank her for running.......I'm not a huge Trump fan, but I do think that he stands a better chance of making real change in Washington, than another entrenched politician. Especially one that is as entrenched an corrupt as Clinton is
Cliff, that comma after your name means I'm addressing you with what follows, not talking about you. Trump is the one who literally said Clinton as junior senator from New York should have single handedly overhauled the entire tax code if she was a good senator. How did you miss that?
I'm not a huge Trump fan, but I do think that he stands a better chance of making real change in Washington, than another entrenched politician. Especially one that is as entrenched an corrupt as Clinton is
100% agree but I very much doubt the change Drumpf would make would be good.
I don't think my disdain for Trump is any secret. But that debate last night gave me feelings of embarrassment as an American. How are these two the best we have to offer? Before you offer up Johnson as choice you may want to study up on his polices. He's worse than either of Trump or Clinton. [Farther right on some issues than Trump, and Farther left than Sanders on others]
I forgot who posted it a few pages ago, but to echo; had either party put forward a real candidate this race would be over already.
Total waste of time. It would be nice if the rules of the next debate forbid discussing anything about the opponent, and only allowed responses about policy and implementation.
That would be great John. Same should hold true for campaigning. Only discuss your policy views and your opponents, without any type of personal slander....name calling...etc.
Let the public do their own research on morale character
This, term limits, pork in bills, in bed with labor, etc... will never happen with another entrenched politician at the helm
- 538 is now showing Clinton @ 83%
- Republican Party is going through a civil war
- Trump supporters are doing matrix style gymnastics to justify their decision in for candidate
Show us some hypocrisy Grant. Come on Delta .... defend your great orange master.
haha... 80 million copies of Shades of Grey sold? How many went to the movies? Bill rapes woman after woman and Hillary attacks the victims like a pit bull? Enough with your faux outrage.
I said it once and I will say it again. Trump is not and will not be my favorite person; however, you voted in a one term senator who did not have a single vote in congress as president. He set forth to destroy America with Obamacare, drew little sand lines in Syria and let ISIS take hold while having member after member of the Muslim Brotherhood in his inner circle. I don't care at all what you have to say about Trump. He is not a democrat and he is not HiLIARy. To coin a democrat phrase from past elections. Anyone but Hillary.
If you guys weren't so against it then health care would go a lot smoother. Kind of how you guys were sooooo against Medicaid when that rolled out. But hey, you guys like that now right?
Medicare you have to pay into for over 45 years to get benefits from it and it is still not solvent. It has 50% of all healthcare spending.
You're right, Obama, Clinton, and all of the above are more responsible for the law and can/should be criticized for it. But once again, just because Trump followed the law it hardly makes it ethical. Cheating on your wife/gf/bf/etc isn't illegal, but that doesn't make it right either. Just like lying.
Businesses face a looser set of tax code so that they can maneuver the economy to grow & create jobs. For example, business are allowed to receive money for services pre-tax. IE We don't pay taxes on that services rendered. A tax-id #, w-9, we're all set to receive money sans tax. Therefore, the companies balance, during that tax period, exist tax free. Taxes are due quarterly and face an extensive set of deductions. Now for the less dense part. We have a corporate apartment in midtown for visitors, out of town vendors or employees will use instead of getting a hotel. We pay for that with funds that have yet to be taxed. No where in the letter of the law does it say executives can't live in the apartment. This is also different than the common "i write off my rent for a home office" deduction. But any of us could live there and claim it isn't our full time residence
The short, I could use that loop hole to avoid paying income tax equal to the amount of rent I pay and it would be completely legal. There is also a host of other ways I could avoid any type of income tax by funneling purchases through the business. My truck could be a marketing expense, that LG curved TV could be for presentations, my families christmas presents could be client entertainment, I could pay our maid with visa gift cards from the grocery store, etc etc. However, none of this is why the tax code exist the way it does and abusing it comes with an inherent amount of risk. Some of which can be hidden from in the form of bankruptcy laws. But that is another rant......
Ethical huh?
Hillary and Bill Clinton dodge 'death tax' by putting their New York home into trust - despite presidential candidate's efforts to make the wealthiest pay more
Hillary and Bill Clinton have been using financial planning strategies to reduce their exposure to the so-called 'death tax' that she wants to raise, new documents have confirmed.
The couple have created residence trusts for their Chappaqua, New York, home, a tactic often only used among the wealthiest to reduce their estate tax bills and leave hefty gifts for their children.
The unemployment rate was a real number when Bush was president. Now it's a fallacy because Obama is president even though it's calculated the exact same way. More hypocrisy.
Actually the liberals had the same argument during Bush regarding the employment rate. People had jobs, however they were low paying jobs they argued. It goes both ways.
VaG and I can agree on nation building. Funny how no one on this board (on the right) was complaining about it 12 years ago.
Pretty sick of the whiny little b*****es on the right all of a sudden acting like this mess came out of nowhere. Maybe this is a solid lesson on what happens when one party spends 8 years doing nothing but lying, obstructing, and spouting the most ridiculous hyperbole to rile up the uneducated morons rather than working constructively and making reasonable criticism of policy decisions (because there was plenty to be made). Every one of you who relished the birther BS, called Michelle Obama an ape, the list goes on and it's all on this board in black and white - you only have yourselves to thank for President Clinton part deux.
Wow... Should we look at the archives of how many memes you posted calling Bush and Ape?
haha... 80 million copies of Shades of Grey sold? How many went to the movies?
Yeah, it makes no sense. All these people going to murder or horror movies and yet they don't do this in their daily lives. I just don't understand it. And that's why I support Trump.
Wow... Should we look at the archives of how many memes you posted calling Bush and Ape?
Sure, go for it. Doubt you'll find anything where anyone on this board viciously attacked her looks. Doubt you'll find anything much about Laura at all.
Yeah, it makes no sense. All these people going to murder or horror movies and yet they don't do this in their daily lives. I just don't understand it. And that's why I support Trump.
Don't remember Laura being a lawyer who was part of the political process. The left used to call her "mittens" if I recall. You guys viciously attacked Bush and any Republican based on looks. You voted not on your brain but by politics or racism only. Wanting Obama not because he was qualified but was a black guy who spoke well all while ignoring his record (or lack of it) or his political theory.
I don't paste on peoples looks because I am too ugly to call anyone ugly but you guys made a living of it.
deltahoosier
(pesos)Join Date: Oct 2001Location: Texas
10-11-2016, 11:12 AM
LOL Rod's in a real mood. You're really gonna stay on Trump's nuts? Guess you've been there since 2011 so you're pretty comfortable now. And a birther calling Obama supporters racist is pretty hilarious.
You are once again making claims with no evidence. Who's made a living out of calling someone ugly (other than Trump)?
He bragged that he did. So at worst he was telling the truth, at best he lied in a way that normalizes sexual assault.
Big takeaway no matter whether he did what he said he did or he didn't is that he's "that kind of guy" who will freely brag about assaulting women to feed his ego.
Uh huh. You ever talk about a girl in an unflattering way? Ever expect it to be filmed and saved for 12 years later. I don't care the least about your guys faux moral high ground. You will vote for Hillary even though she says a baby has no rights up until the time it leave the womb no matter how far along. Will justify the porn industry and most likely do watch porn and on and on. Don't even start on the high horse of this garbage.
Cut Rod a little slack, he's having a tough time this morning coming to grip with his boy's implosion. Scary thing when the guy you've been riding for 5 years starts to fall apart and the guy you've been ripping for eight has an approval rating within spitting distance of Clinton and Reagan.
And Rod, you can stop lying about Clinton's abortion stance - you're confusing her with Sanders who is for zero restriction. Clinton supports late term abortion bans with the usual 3 exceptions.
Cut Rod a little slack, he's having a tough time this morning coming to grip with his boy's implosion. Scary thing when the guy you've been riding for 5 years starts to fall apart and the guy you've been ripping for eight has an approval rating within spitting distance of Clinton and Reagan.
And Rod, you can stop lying about Clinton's abortion stance - you're confusing her with Sanders who is for zero restriction. Clinton supports late term abortion bans with the usual 3 exceptions.
Nope. Clinton said a baby has no rights what so every until it comes out of the womb. Her own words. Again though, you will feign outrage of someone saying p***y 12 years ago or when ever but don't care about chopped up babies? Interesting set of morals you have.
Watch porn? Look at women on the beach? Ever have a crass word among friends?
What is the riding for 5 years mean? If you mean anyone but a democrat, then sure. Remember, just because you guys are triggered and running for your safe space does not mean that my world is falling apart.
I am a little behind on procedure so you have to forgive me. Do you riot, burn down cities and shoot cops on the way to the safe space or after you leave the safe space? Or is all that unrelated to the safe space?
You know very well what she said - she was referring to the state of current law. Or maybe since you just parrot Breitbart you don't actually know. Lying or ignorant - not sure which.
Watching porn or looking at women does not equal sexual assault - grabbing them by the pussy does. Which bothers you more, me looking at your wife or me trying to grab her pussy?
I mean you've been riding Trump's nuts for 5 years now, starting with the birther thing. As you say, it's all here in black and white.
Wow almost 3k posts about a POS. I thought this was a watersports forum. One thing you can bank on is that no governed civilization has ever stood the test of time. They have all failed. America will be no different. Now who is riding this weekend?
Have any of you seen Idiocracy? Seems we are heading that way fast. Hilary is scary. Trump is scarier(and I am a Republican) and lacks a moral compass which I feel is important part of the Oval Office.I really can't believe anyone is still supporting this guy. Its a shame these two idiots are the best our county could come up with. I will be voting none of the above.
Rod, if tapes come out of the trumpster dropping the N-bomb on the apprentice does that make any difference to you? Is there any line that can't be crossed? Yes I understand what you are saying about personal hypocrisy but we are not standing for President. The President has to be held to a higher standard than the avg, personally I would be ashamed if Trump represented me and my country.
I don't really remember being a birther however I am sure I engaged in the discussion. I guess I was just like the Clinton supporters in 2008 where they to questioned Obama's birthplace.
Objectify women is that. Treating them like objects. Do you have to grab the woman by the P***y to mentally be in the same place? Or is it if you don't say it out loud that you are better then Trump? Did you have a problem with the video of Bill groping the girl on the plane? What about Bill sticking the cigar up Monica in the Oval Office? Talking about being on someones nuts.....
Rod, if tapes come out of the trumpster dropping the N-bomb on the apprentice does that make any difference to you? Is there any line that can't be crossed? Yes I understand what you are saying about personal hypocrisy but we are not standing for President. The President has to be held to a higher standard than the avg, personally I would be ashamed if Trump represented me and my country.
Don't care. I am looking at the make up of the Supreme Court for the next generation and having a progressive in the whitehouse would be a disaster.
We can talk about higher standards. Martha Stewart went to prison for lying to the FBI once. Hillary did it over 30 times. Think about that.
deltahoosier
(pesos)Join Date: Oct 2001Location: Texas
10-11-2016, 12:06 PM
Given Delta's rant I think we're in the presence of political savant. Delta, and Delta alone can justify Trump's stance on everything. You're in the wrong game, I think you should start a cult with those spin tactics. As for 50 Shades of Grey and Bill Clinton, neither of them are currently on the presidential ballot. Needless to say, they are less relevant.
50 Shades - Its Fiction, sorry... there are also book about murders and/or far worse.
Bill Clinton, maybe it was true maybe it wasn't. But it did happen during a time when he wasn't campaigning, and media coverage wasn't as prevalent. So we can criticize him all we want and if it is true than he should be. But don't use it as a distraction from Trumps shenanigans.
Or is it if you don't say it out loud that you are better then Trump?
That is an unqualified yes. The difference between socially acceptable and unacceptable or even criminal is the ability to not act out on every desire that pops into your head.
Hillary and Bill Clinton dodge 'death tax' by putting their New York home into trust - despite presidential candidate's efforts to make the wealthiest pay more
Hillary and Bill Clinton have been using financial planning strategies to reduce their exposure to the so-called 'death tax' that she wants to raise, new documents have confirmed.
The couple have created residence trusts for their Chappaqua, New York, home, a tactic often only used among the wealthiest to reduce their estate tax bills and leave hefty gifts for their children.
So let me make sure I understand this logic, because the Clinton's practiced a form of tax evasion, then it cancels out Trump's tax evasion? If that logic is true than shouldn't the same apply to H. Clinton and GW Bush?
If so, then Bush deleted several million emails and had 60 diplomats die under his administration. Therefore, if we're to wipe away Trumps tax record, we're to also wipe away Hillary's emails and Benghazi?
Uh huh. You ever talk about a girl in an unflattering way? Ever expect it to be filmed and saved for 12 years later..
A. I am not running for president.
B. Any such comments, to the extent they exist, are not preserved on tape, and if they were preserved on tape, I'd assume they'd be disqualifying.
C. Any such comments, to the extent they exist, would've stopped around age 22 (i.e. graduation from college and admission into the "grown up" world).
D. If these comments were made as a young man, or on the battlefield, or to a lifelong friend in a private conversation I might have a little empathy. However they were made by a 59 year old man who knew he was mic'd to a tv gossip show host.
Maybe Hillary and Trump are still good friends, and this is all a ruse just to get Hillary elected as President. Who else could she run against that is as completely horrible in so many ways as Trump that could ensure her winning?
Maybe Hillary and Trump are still good friends, and this is all a ruse just to get Hillary elected as President. Who else could she run against that is as completely horrible in so many ways as Trump that could ensure her winning?
No kidding... In the end we should all be thanking Trump for derailing what might very well have been a Cruz presidency!
Where's poor Markj? Probably not feeling so great about his multiple Trump win predictions I guess, nor his WikiLeaks wet dreams...
WikiLeaks now compromised and releasing doctored/fake emails in their failing attempts to help Trump.
And Condi Rice and Colin Powell both confirming Benghazi was a "stupid witch hunt."
Not a good week for the Rod and Mark club.
LOL! You might be right about my predictions. I certainly hope not. More than anything else, I care about the supreme court picks. That might have way more impact than just about any legislation that Hildabeast comes up with or supports.
LOL! You might be right about my predictions. I certainly hope not. More than anything else, I care about the supreme court picks. That might have way more impact than just about any legislation that Hildabeast comes up with or supports.
Yep, and I think both sides feel that way. And with Hillary becoming more of a sure thing with every passing tweet, I think the GOPers with some sense are now focusing heavily on senate and house races.
You might be right. Only I won't be thanking Trump. The polls would be 75% Cruz to 25% Hildabeast right now.....
Your hyperbole aside, it would still be a close race - but Cruz would have a frighteningly good shot at winning. Rubio would have probably won with relative ease and even Bush could have probably pulled it out.
That is an unqualified yes. The difference between socially acceptable and unacceptable or even criminal is the ability to not act out on every desire that pops into your head.
Absolutely yes here too. I definitely hold myself to a higher standard than Trump. Hillary too.
Yep, and I think both sides feel that way. And with Hillary becoming more of a sure thing with every passing tweet, I think the GOPers with some sense are now focusing heavily on senate and house races.
If Trump continues his rise from the ashes of stupid comments and has another debate like the last one, he's still gonna have a pretty good chance of winning this. What's amazing is how he's still in this and rising despite the recordings we all heard last week. That's saying something right there about how much Clinton is hated and despised by all.
If Trump continues his rise from the ashes of stupid comments and has another debate like the last one, he's still gonna have a pretty good chance of winning this. What's amazing is how he's still in this and rising despite the recordings we all heard last week. That's saying something right there about how much Clinton is hated and despised by all.
Paradise compared to weeks to come if the rumored N-bomb footage from the apprentice comes out
He's never had the black vote anyway. Nothing from nothing. Blacks are still brainwashed into thinking the lib's are their sugar daddy despite the statistics proving otherwise.
He's never had the black vote anyway. Nothing from nothing. Blacks are still brainwashed into thinking the lib's are their sugar daddy despite the statistics proving otherwise.
Ladies and gentlemen, perfect example of racist Trump voter logic. This nutjob is so far gone that he actually thinks that the only people that care (or should care) about such a thing are black.
He's never had the black vote anyway. Nothing from nothing. Blacks are still brainwashed into thinking the lib's are their sugar daddy despite the statistics proving otherwise.
Ha ha, your funny. Black people don't have a problem with the n word, white people do
If Trump continues his rise from the ashes of stupid comments and has another debate like the last one, he's still gonna have a pretty good chance of winning this. What's amazing is how he's still in this and rising despite the recordings we all heard last week. That's saying something right there about how much Clinton is hated and despised by all.
If I was Hillary, I'd actually feel pretty bad, embarrassed and pissed that the race is as close as it is being up against such a complete and obvious unqualified piece of garbage.
If I was Hillary, I'd actually feel pretty bad, embarrassed and pissed that the race is as close as it is being up against such a complete and obvious unqualified piece of garbage.
I think she's pretty much accustomed to this kind of BS after 25 years of ridiculous witch hunts that never seem to go anywhere. There's a reason she has thick skin and the Donald just whimpers and moans and complains about moderators mentioning he's over time... 47 times he complains about them letting her go over and how it's "3 on 1" and then when it's tallied up he actually spoke for a minute longer than her. Poor guy, when you live your live with a silver spoon up your ass I guess equality feels like oppression.
As a conservative guy I can be honest and say Trump is not the guy for this country but for the life of me, I cannot understand why libs cannot say the same for Hillary. Equally bad and we are just screwed. Timing is everything but any republican other than Trump would have walked away with this election I believe.:
I cannot understand why libs cannot say the same for Hillary. Equally bad and we are just screwed.
There are a number of people on this board labeled as Libs, I haven't seen a single one defend Hillary at any stage and say she is a good choice. It seems you can not criticize the Don without also supporting Hilderbeast in some peoples eyes.
Ladies and gentlemen, perfect example of racist Trump voter logic. This nutjob is so far gone that he actually thinks that the only people that care (or should care) about such a thing are black.
You can malign me all day long if that's what floats your boat. It's the liberal media that says Trump has never had any hope of getting the black vote. Why would you label me a racist for repeating what your team says?
The funny thing is that you can't (won't?) even analyze what you said and realize that the issue isn't that you said Trump's "never had the black vote anyway." I spelled it out for you and you quoted it and you still didn't read it I guess.
Wes thats not racism. It only becomes racism when you start inserting your own version of what he said. Prejudice, would be the better choice to describe it. What I find kind of funny is, there are a lot of posters here who are terrible guilty of being bigoted and prejudice and they have no idea. Really what you did to MarkJs post fit into that criteria.