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Join Date: Aug 2006
05-15-2007, 1:14 PM
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Any of you guys have some tricks that you just cant get? I don't mean the next, more advanced thing you're working on. I'm talking about one have skipped or learned but never dialed in, that still gets you. Mine would be the indy ts backroll. I can do a pete rose more consistently than a ts backroll. Another one that I finally fixed this year was a ts 3. I used to do them, then a few summers ago when I learned off 5's I never did them, and after that all I could do was the 5. Now a method toe 3 is one of my fav tricks. Im bound and determined to get the stupid ts backroll down too. (Message edited by Focker on May 15, 2007)
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Join Date: Nov 2006
05-15-2007, 1:21 PM
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hs 3, and frontroll
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Join Date: Dec 2006
05-15-2007, 1:33 PM
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HS 3, Tantrum, HS Backside 180
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Join Date: Jun 2006
05-15-2007, 1:44 PM
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hs back roll, I can land them to revert just fine though.
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Join Date: May 2002
05-15-2007, 2:08 PM
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I'm the same as Shane. I used to throw hs backrolls, then when I learned to throw them to revert, I lost the ability to land them regular. It's been 4 years!!
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Join Date: May 2007
05-15-2007, 2:10 PM
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W2W
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Join Date: Jun 2006
05-15-2007, 2:14 PM
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must be a dallas thing!
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Minnesnowda
05-15-2007, 2:16 PM
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for me it has to be a Dum Dum. Damn trick is painful when you miss the handle.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
05-15-2007, 2:24 PM
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ts indy bs 180 (I don't think I will ever be able land these consistently) frontroll (I can do scarecrows, but always come up short on a straight front roll)
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Join Date: May 2003
05-15-2007, 2:27 PM
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Heel Side 5 to the flats ....then to the ER. Landed twice, yardsaled twice.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
05-15-2007, 2:33 PM
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Toe 3.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
05-15-2007, 2:44 PM
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HS backroll. Tried at least 100 times. Probably more.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
05-15-2007, 2:45 PM
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Hah. It's funny reading some of these. I have a friend that had every basic invert dialed except the hs backroll. He could actually do them - thing is he wouldnt even make it halfway across the wake. I dont know if to this day he ever figured it out.
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Join Date: Apr 2006
05-15-2007, 3:14 PM
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HS backroll...just can't figure out to get the pop. HS Front roll...ever since I learned the tantrum I can't throw a proper front roll. I do Fantrums.
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Join Date: Nov 2006
05-15-2007, 3:33 PM
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tantrum. i can do h/s backrolls and t/s frontrolls but not tantrums i landed one before a yead ago but can never do them anymore i always land on my face or stomach now they scare me and also h/s 180's lol. i can do halfcabs really good and t/s 180 and ts 3's and hs 3's but not h/s 180s!
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Join Date: Apr 2002
05-15-2007, 3:41 PM
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Mine are the Tanny to B, and the Toe 7. They just kill me!!
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Join Date: Nov 2002
05-15-2007, 4:07 PM
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Mine is BS anything and the HS Front Flip. My brain just doesn't comprehend BS and the Front has already broken one ankle, although I think I'm trying it again tomorrow. We shall see.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
05-15-2007, 4:13 PM
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HS Backroll here...I watch the Book repeatedly, watch my friends repeatedly, go over it in my mind successfully hundreds of times...and then eat it (repeatedly). I'm about to give it the ol' 'none of the pros throw this anyway, why do I need to learn it '
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Join Date: Oct 2005
05-15-2007, 4:22 PM
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For my son it's a backroll to revert, he can do roll to blind's & a KGB but can't do a roll to rev. go figure.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
05-15-2007, 4:37 PM
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untill very recently, i could not do a toeside wake to wake, i could do scarecrows out into the flats, and toeside backrolls but never just a normal wake to wake until about last week
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Join Date: Apr 2002
05-15-2007, 5:27 PM
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tantrum!!!! I had it three summers ago, hurt my knee and now it's not even close anymore. The other trick that is kicking my ass is any grabbed backroll. I can take the backroll big and spot the landing early but when I try to grab it all goes to crap.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
05-15-2007, 6:53 PM
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Mike, try grabing it early right off the wake, while your body is still compact so your not reaching for it and chasing it.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
05-15-2007, 8:04 PM
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Haha, TS W2W!! sounds pathetic but I can't get it without a 180 in there.
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Join Date: Jun 2006
05-15-2007, 8:59 PM
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trevor, thats how I started going w2w ts
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Join Date: Aug 2006
05-16-2007, 8:21 AM
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mike - I had the same problem for the longest time with the hs backroll. Everytime I attempted the grab, I would miss and feel like I was going to get pulled to revert - making it halfway and catching a toeside edge of death. If you grab right off the wake, it actually is a very fluid rotation and sets you up for a perfect landing on your hs edge. Only if you miss the grab will you feel it pull towards revert. edit - this post was referring to front hand grabs only. IE nose, method, slob (Message edited by Focker on May 16, 2007)
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Join Date: Jul 2005
05-16-2007, 9:09 AM
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hs frontroll. i can spin it and land it perfectly everytime. but for the life of me i can not stop myself from letting go of the handle 3/4 of the way through!!!!! im about to try duct tape! im serious!
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Join Date: Apr 2007
05-16-2007, 9:17 AM
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Trevor, theres a kid i know that cant go toeside wake to wake but can throw scarecrows. mine has to be toeside backrolls and toeside blind 3's
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Join Date: Nov 2002
05-16-2007, 11:53 AM
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Whats a HS Frontroll?
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Join Date: Jul 2005
05-16-2007, 12:04 PM
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i come into the wake HS and drop my front shoulder and do a frontroll
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Join Date: May 2007
05-16-2007, 1:54 PM
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i have had the worst time with switch toeside off axis 5's....any hints????
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Join Date: Nov 2006
05-16-2007, 2:16 PM
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i think they r meaning the mexican backroll when they say heelside frontroll? idk though
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Join Date: Dec 2006
05-16-2007, 4:15 PM
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backroll hsbs180 hsfs360 ts just improve my jumps and some 180s
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Join Date: May 2001
05-25-2007, 2:26 PM
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hs rolls to revert... never have put one down, but I see it all the way around and it just doesnt stick..., t/s 3s are tough to get wicked consistent, and tantrums seem impossible to me...
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Join Date: Jun 2006
05-25-2007, 5:07 PM
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duane, make sure you get a solid trip at the top of the wake and the tantrum will do itself!
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Join Date: Jul 2006
05-25-2007, 5:22 PM
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hs 3 for me. About 3 years ago I did the whole wrap handle approach and nailed it for a summer. Since then, I have not been able to land another one. I don't even try the handle wrap anymore, but the regular 3...i can get around but can't seem to pass the handle... ...I just skipped everything and went to the backroll, inverts are always more fun! I need people to ride with tho because the people I ride with think I'm the King going w2w.
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Join Date: Apr 2004
05-25-2007, 6:19 PM
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toeside backside 180 digger everytime!
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Join Date: Jul 2004
05-25-2007, 6:56 PM
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By entrust clothing (entrustclothing) on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:04 pm: i come into the wake HS and drop my front shoulder and do a frontroll Thats a hs front flip Foor me it isthe Ts front roll (nut burner) been tryin it for 5 years
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Join Date: Sep 2006
05-25-2007, 8:48 PM
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ok since no one has mentioned it, every time i say im gonna do a raley i dont. lol i can do one at the cable park but not behind boat...yet! I have a feeling its gonna go down one of these days.
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Join Date: May 2001
05-26-2007, 9:38 AM
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shane I can get it around, I just dont think my flipping axis is right... I think I gotta work on my approach and trip edge more... sometimes I land on the board and the rope just gets yanked out... maybe seeing it on video will help try to correct some things
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Dallas , TX
05-26-2007, 10:37 AM
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I have all the base inverts but a TS back roll! I have a problem trowing my head back or something. It took me a while to even try a tantrum but nailed it on my first attempt. I have attempted like 3 or 4 TS back rolls but always bail out half way through! Also my R to R is only fifty persent bacuse I dont always pull all the way around and slide out on my heels to my butt. Anyone have any advice on that one?
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Join Date: Jul 2001
05-26-2007, 12:45 PM
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pete rose, i land it, i eat it, i land it, i eat, i grab it, i dont grab it, i grab it, i eat it...and the falls are never too pretty...occasionally they are
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Join Date: Apr 2002
05-26-2007, 1:44 PM
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switch ollie 180
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Join Date: Jun 2006
05-26-2007, 4:00 PM
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Raley, I keep lookin down, I can get full extention and I hold it all the way to the glassy concrete Blew my knee once, saw the stars once and don't remember getting back in the boat once, so I gave up on it. Havn't been out for awile so if I get the bugs out and try one again I'll let you all know what went wrong this time
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Join Date: Jan 2007
05-26-2007, 11:00 PM
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HS FS 360 its gotten to where i cant try it without getting scared and just letting go of the handle. its really embarassing cause i land the spin most of the time. (Message edited by dnp33 on May 26, 2007)
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Join Date: Apr 2004
05-29-2007, 11:40 AM
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I think it's ridiculous that I can land 720s and I can't spin off-axis to save my life. Very frustrating.
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Join Date: Jun 2001
05-29-2007, 11:56 AM
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Tantrum for sure. I bet I could learn 10 different inverts before ever getting that one consistent. I HATE that trick!
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Join Date: Mar 2007
05-29-2007, 11:57 AM
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I stick 5's like nothing, but 3's at all... It drives me nuts Crowmobes too, I flip it, spin it, land it, and the handle pops everytime
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Join Date: Jun 2001
05-29-2007, 12:15 PM
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Gene - Really think about getting that handle to your back pocket on those HS R2R's. I also try to stick my chest out on the landing which really helps you to stay on your toes. When do you pull it to revert? I keep both hands on the handle until I see my landing but I'm pulling more with my rear handle the entire rotation. I think waiting too late to turn it to revert can cause you to slip out as well.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Dallas , TX
05-29-2007, 3:36 PM
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I usually pull straight off the wake but I feel like if I pull to hard I rotate to fast and slip out on my butt! I have to try & float it around to land the R to R. Every once in awhile I will come up short from trying to float it and catch an edge like never before.
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Join Date: Jan 2004
05-29-2007, 4:20 PM
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Gene, I have the same problem on regular roll 2 verts. I just learned how to do switch r2r (half cab roll), and for some reason dont have the problem. Oh well, guess shaun marray was right in detention. They are easier switch.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Dallas , TX
05-29-2007, 4:27 PM
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I can do the half cab roll much easier also. Go figure.
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05-29-2007, 6:47 PM
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ts front rolls. i despise that trick. although i got some great tips this past weekend and actually landed one. i still hate that trick
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Join Date: Apr 2007
05-29-2007, 7:04 PM
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i dont want to jynx myself but it used to be toeside backrolls. i landed 10 out of 11 yesterday, and i fell on the first one. so im pretty stoked
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