I have no idea where the handle is for the first handle pass on this trick. Someone told me when I'm heading towards the kicker, let go with my back hand about 5 feet before I get to the kicker and then pull with my front hand and try to pass the handle before I leave the kicker. I find myself trying to pas the handle while airborne (very unsuccessfully). Also, once I learn it what should I be doing to take it way off axis? I want eventually be able to do this trick off axis with a melon
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