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Join Date: Sep 2006
06-19-2008, 8:07 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
06-19-2008, 8:14 AM
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Sweet. I have heard really good stuff about the wake. New Board racks and I like the pads on the gunnels. I will be ordering a few on my next load.
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Join Date: Feb 2007
06-19-2008, 8:19 AM
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what engine does MB use?
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Join Date: Aug 2005
06-19-2008, 8:22 AM
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PCM 343 or PCM ZR6 (390 hp)
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Join Date: Feb 2007
06-19-2008, 8:28 AM
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hmm, i like it a lot. Not so sure ab. the tribal patterns for the interior, but I really like the shape of the body and the interior lay-out in general. Nice clean looking dash too, cool boat.
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Join Date: Sep 2003
06-19-2008, 8:29 AM
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Is it just me, or are the spikes on the front much shorter than on the Tomcat? Pretty boat for sure. I wonder about the chrome on the dash. It seems to reflect the light into the driver's eyes. It seems that everyone is going with more bling on the dash and I am not sure I like it when the sun is out and you go without your bimini.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
06-19-2008, 8:31 AM
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the dash is more brushed, it's the same as on my Tomcat and it is not reflective at all. The front forks are a lot shorter on this boat than on the 23 ft tomcat
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Join Date: Jun 2005
06-19-2008, 8:40 AM
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what's the price on their "price point boat"? nice looking
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Join Date: Feb 2007
06-19-2008, 8:48 AM
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interested in seeing the other graphic options.. ian, do those racks swivvel or no?
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Join Date: Sep 2006
06-19-2008, 8:52 AM
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don't have pics yet... racks do swivel. I think you can get one pretty loaded for about or under 50k but I am not sure about that. That is a total guess, you'd have to contact a dealer to find out as I just haven't seen any pricing info on it yet.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
06-19-2008, 8:57 AM
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Beautiful boat to be sure. The pictures of the bow section make it appear very short as if one could hardly stretch out ones legs up there. Is it just an optical illusion? I really like the interior layout and the dash configuration is simple and looks to be easy to read. I guess the big question now is does it throw a nice wake for boarding and surfing?
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Join Date: Jun 2005
06-19-2008, 9:05 AM
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Interesting. Is the hull just a shrunk version of the larger tomcat or more like the B52? I was a little worried cause I just bought a new B52V and hadn't seen anything about this new tomcat. I was afraid that I may want the tomcat instead but I think I like the B52 better. Don't get me wrong, I think this new "price point boat" will be a good addition but I'm still getting used to the looks of the larger tomcat let alone this one. Maybe the other graphic options will help me like it better.
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Join Date: Jun 2003
06-19-2008, 9:20 AM
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Cool looking boat, I like the clean graphics, the depth of the interior, the wide bow area and the shorter pickleforks. I would like to see it with the Tomcat style tower that swoops forward. I don't like the interior design, it is too much for me.
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Join Date: Aug 2001
06-19-2008, 9:55 AM
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Cranny you got one?
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Join Date: Apr 2003
06-19-2008, 10:38 AM
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racks look exactly like the M/C racks from 2003
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Join Date: Dec 2006
06-19-2008, 11:14 AM
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That is pretty good lookin...I can't remember my local MB dealer.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
06-19-2008, 11:14 AM
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That boat is very nice looking. If it has a good wake and can actually sell for 50k then I think they found a winner.
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tyler
06-19-2008, 11:32 AM
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the bow area looks really wide, and not as deep. looks like it would seat several comfortably. nice boat.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
06-19-2008, 11:33 AM
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What about a Bimini?
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Join Date: Jun 2004
06-19-2008, 11:53 AM
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Sick! What's the weight on trailer? If the wake is anything like the Tomcat, they definitely have a winner.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
06-19-2008, 11:53 AM
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Just talked to the sales guy at Ski Masters (Seattle Water Sports) and he says this boat uses a Calabria Pure Vert type system. Wonder if there was any legal issues with them using a system like that?
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Join Date: Sep 2006
06-19-2008, 11:57 AM
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No, they've been using that system on all the '08 boats. I have it on my tomcat. the 2400 fills in about 90 seconds and drains in 30 seconds on plane. It's incredible.
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Join Date: Feb 2006
06-19-2008, 11:59 AM
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Cool, I like it.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
06-19-2008, 12:06 PM
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Beautiful
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Join Date: Sep 2006
06-19-2008, 12:35 PM
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Nice lines on the boat, but the Tribal upholstery graphic looks dated.
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Join Date: Jan 2007
06-19-2008, 1:21 PM
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illkid Mike Murphy can, and is, licensing that fill system to whoever he wants, its his gig. This boat is sweet, I like it just from the pic's. Cant wait to see some surf pic's when someone gets some. (Message edited by deltaboy on June 19, 2008) (Message edited by deltaboy on June 19, 2008)
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Join Date: Jan 2007
06-19-2008, 1:25 PM
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Tell me that pylon comes out though or screws down etc.
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Join Date: Jan 2007
06-19-2008, 1:56 PM
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What is the price?
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Join Date: Mar 2007
06-19-2008, 1:58 PM
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looks great except that tower.... yikes. any other tower options?
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Join Date: Mar 2005
06-19-2008, 2:34 PM
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Kevin I asked the same question, it pops out and has a billet cap for the hole. Another chunk of metal to get lost in my garage
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Join Date: May 2005
06-19-2008, 4:03 PM
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Very nice looking boat. Doesn't look like the racks in the pictures will swivel at all.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
06-21-2008, 1:01 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
06-21-2008, 5:26 PM
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both boats look sweet
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Join Date: Dec 2002
06-22-2008, 10:56 AM
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I must say I like it! I like the looks of the interior, lots of seating for a 21 ft. boat. I like the option for the playpen seating in the bow. MB has been coming out with some nice looking boats.
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Join Date: May 2004
06-22-2008, 11:27 AM
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Very Nice!! How much?
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Join Date: Apr 2006
06-22-2008, 11:43 AM
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Nice looks like they've come along ways in the last couple of years.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
06-22-2008, 2:57 PM
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that boat looks way better with the second graphic package IMO
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Join Date: Apr 2005
06-22-2008, 3:38 PM
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i love the boat. i would seriously consider one if i was looking for a new boat
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Join Date: Oct 2003
06-23-2008, 11:44 AM
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I have never been a fan of the looks on the new Tomcat 23 tower and large prongs on the front, however this one seems to look pretty darn sharp. Also looks like a lot of interior room for a 21 footer. The back storage compartments look really short in the picture. Can you get a 142 or so wakeboard with bindings attached in there?
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Join Date: Jan 2006
06-25-2008, 10:36 PM
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how are the surf wakes behind this thing
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Join Date: Mar 2008
06-26-2008, 7:06 AM
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If its a price point boat what does it list at. The X1 was a price point boat but good luck getting one much under 50.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
06-26-2008, 8:05 AM
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MB is definitely going in the right direction - I think this is the best looking boat of theirs that I have seen. The interior view in the 6th picture looks very nice. If you can't get the boat on plane (ie engine dies) can you still drain the ballast to get it on a trailer? I guess if it will, it just takes a lot longer? I've always liked their ballast setup with the two huge tanks under each side.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
06-26-2008, 9:36 AM
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Nice looking MB. I'm digging the new look. Is the first photo taken at the Sporting Edge in Antioch, CA? That parking lot looks familiar. (Message edited by wayz on June 26, 2008)
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Join Date: Feb 2006
06-26-2008, 12:23 PM
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Thanks for the pics Ian! The F21 looks sweet, I'll have to swing over to Seattle WaterSports for a closer look. Pads on the gunnels are a nice touch. The tower is kinda different, I'd like to see an original F23 tower on this boat. Board racks have changed, can a wakesurfer fit in those? More graphic packages for 09, gotta like that. I wonder if the ski pylon is retractable? No pics of the swim step or transom, it looks like the transom is notched like the F23? The trunks look tiny, they have gotten smaller every year on the B52s. I have always liked the Tomcat dash, it is simple and uncluttered. Bow seating looks a little short. The forks have been trimmed and look much better! Nice to finally see the spotters seat on a 21 footer, the spot behind the driver never had a back to it, plus its a good spot for a sub! The one piece windshield is good lookin. I think some bow lights similar to the F23 would look nice. Hey Alan, I thought I read that the PCM ZR6 horsepower was bumped up to 409 for 09 ? Should be interesting to see what tweaks are in store for the B52s in 09 !
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Join Date: Jun 2005
06-26-2008, 1:17 PM
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I saw these boats this weekend at Tulloch. They look real nice. I saw one with the swoop's Just like the one "Only" posted above it was a Red White and Black pattern look'd cool. I like the look of the shorter boat compaired to the longer pickle fork. Im not counting but is this the 2nd or 3rd MC x2 look alike boat?
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Join Date: Feb 2006
07-02-2008, 11:50 AM
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bump^^
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Join Date: Apr 2004
07-02-2008, 3:11 PM
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the racks do look like the 03 MC, and when they break it sucks! IMO the worst racks ever
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Join Date: Aug 2005
07-02-2008, 3:14 PM
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The racks are nothing like the 03 Mastercraft racks. These racks have gears and release with a button, no gas shock.
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Join Date: Jul 2008
07-02-2008, 4:27 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
07-02-2008, 8:28 PM
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I think the interiors have taken a big step with this model. MB's keep getting better... I love the fact that MB licensed the "Pure Vert" ballast system, no hassling with small stock systems, and piggy-backing sacks on top, ie. MC X-star High fly system.
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Join Date: Jul 2003
07-02-2008, 8:38 PM
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not a fan.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
07-02-2008, 10:07 PM
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has anyone confirmed what the price on these actually is?
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Join Date: Sep 2006
07-03-2008, 5:10 AM
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I think MSRP is like 55k but i'm not 100% sure on that.
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Join Date: Aug 2001
07-03-2008, 7:04 AM
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i need wake pics
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Join Date: Jul 2007
07-03-2008, 7:33 AM
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great job for a 21 footer. mb really has its own west coast style. hopefully it really hits the price. what is the freeboard on that boat? the drivers seat looks massive.
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Join Date: Jul 2008
07-08-2008, 4:42 PM
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07-08-2008, 4:50 PM
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07-08-2008, 4:51 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
07-09-2008, 7:14 AM
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Looks SWEET!
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Join Date: Jun 2003
07-09-2008, 7:23 AM
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Looks good sitting in the water, I'm liking the tower more and more too.
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