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Join Date: Jun 2005
10-03-2005, 10:56 AM
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Ok im gonna get stared on some winter projects. Ive got some goodies in the works. Here is some shots of the latest project. Carbon Fiber grab handles. These handles will have LED lights on the back or under side of the handle where your fingers will wrap around. This is a router template. Im gonna have to get the thicknes correct and then add some shape to the handle. I want them to look close to stock
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Join Date: Jun 2001
10-03-2005, 2:05 PM
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Sweet! Too bad my boat doesn't have a single handle like that in it.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
10-03-2005, 3:49 PM
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those are moomba handles if i'm not mistaken.
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Join Date: Jul 2002
10-03-2005, 5:49 PM
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Close...Nautique. Grant has a SAN.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
10-03-2005, 7:55 PM
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what's the next step? Wrap with CF?
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Join Date: Jun 2005
10-03-2005, 8:05 PM
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Im gonna get the thickness of the handle correct and then Im gonna put some shape in the handle and then ill insert the channel for the LED's
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Join Date: Mar 2005
10-04-2005, 10:05 AM
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Close...Nautique. Grant has a SAN. nautiques doesn't even use stainless handles?!!? wow, i thought they would splurge on something like that considering the price.
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Join Date: Jul 2002
10-04-2005, 11:11 AM
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They didn't at the time. Not sure if they still do...I hadn't paid attention to those details in the recent pictures.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
10-04-2005, 1:01 PM
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"Madchild: I dont think stainless grab handels would match as well as the current handle's. I dont think it's a matter of CC skimping. The handles in the front of the boat are stainless The reason is the tower rests on them so they need to be real stong.
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Join Date: Aug 2003
10-04-2005, 6:23 PM
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It's a Nautique but not a SAN. Not sure what is meant by close to Moomba, I don't think it's close? stir, stir...
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Join Date: Jul 2002
10-04-2005, 6:40 PM
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Sorry Mikeski...it was sarcasm lost on madchild. If anyone has seen Grant's work, you surely would have seen the "Bling-Bling". I think it's a SAN (sweet A$$ Nautique!!!!) Eric
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Join Date: Aug 2003
10-05-2005, 9:59 AM
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No need to apologize (at least not to me), just trying to see if anybody was awake. Maybe get a rise out of a Moomba owner? yes I agree with your interpretation of san as applied to Grant's boat. Still looking forward to seeing/touching it but has not happened yet this summer. Hopefully Grant can make it up to McClure on 10/15.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
10-05-2005, 11:19 AM
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Mikeski, HEARING it is what I would want.
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11-03-2005, 4:37 PM
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11-03-2005, 5:04 PM
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So Im just starting to shape the handles. I got kind of caryed away with the curves, LOL But they feel so good in your hand, This handle makes the stock handle look straight. I want the handle to have abit more shape, It also needs to be a tad wider then the stock one so that when I router the space where the LED's are going to fit the handle will still have some strength. When Im finished with the shape this will be my mold for the other 3 handles.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
11-03-2005, 6:09 PM
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Grant, by the time you finish all the electrical projects youre doing and have done, you'll need a nuclear powerplant to run your boat.On a clear summer evening when I see a glow in the sky toward the north, I;ll know its your boat cruising...
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Join Date: Dec 2004
11-04-2005, 3:19 PM
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think of the wake with nuke generator on board
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-04-2005, 3:56 PM
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11-04-2005, 3:59 PM
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Ill connect all 3 surface mount LED clusters together and router a channel wher the wires can run into and that should do it for my mold. Then I will make the mold and cast 3 handles and then start to get them wraped in Carbon Fiber
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Join Date: Jun 2002
11-04-2005, 4:34 PM
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man your a god
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11-04-2005, 5:16 PM
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Hey grant, with all that electronics, does your boat have that electrical generator sound to it (whoom, whoom, whoom)
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Join Date: Feb 2001
11-04-2005, 6:57 PM
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Grant, thats a pretty cool handle. I would think you could sell them. Or, perhaps CC could offer them as an upgrade.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-05-2005, 3:40 PM
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GD, Im making a mold so I can pop some out. For some reason when I make suff nobody's intrested so I make just enough for myself. But as soon as its finished a few people need some. So ill be ready if some one needs some. As far as CC needing some, 6 months ago I would have said never. But after seeing the New 220 and reading there discription of that boat (They said in its write up "it has all the Bling") LOL I would say mabey. But as far as them getting them from me. No way they will make there own. P.S wanna see what $120 worth of RTV (The blue mold) looks like .
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11-06-2005, 9:15 AM
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11-06-2005, 10:08 AM
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Those are definitley sick!!! Brilliant idea.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-06-2005, 10:25 AM
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I have a question. Orignally I was thinking of making it so that you could drop or out what ever color LED cluster you wanted Making the cluster removable, if a LED cluster failed you could drop in a new one or change color. But now im thinking of molding the LED cluster into the handle. If The cluster was resin'd into the handle it would be smoother on the back side ect. I was just wondering what your thoughts were. Is it important to make the handles so that the LED clusters can be changed out???
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Join Date: Jul 2001
11-06-2005, 11:50 AM
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One thing you might wanna do is backfill the LED clusters with epoxy so that they don't pop back through into the little housing when you grab the handle hard. If you are using the high dollar LED clusters they may be built that way to start with. The LEDS won't fail if they don't move around and break a connection, no need to change them out. Looks very cool so far.
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11-06-2005, 12:27 PM
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Hey Grant are those LED waterproff?
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11-06-2005, 1:53 PM
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11-06-2005, 3:16 PM
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I think it is important that if a led fails or goes out you can change it easily
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11-06-2005, 5:48 PM
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As long as the LEDs are current limited properly, they will not go bad. Just check them prior to molding the handle.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-06-2005, 8:24 PM
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These are the type of LED's that im gonna use.
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11-06-2005, 8:25 PM
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11-06-2005, 8:29 PM
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So! Are they Waterproof? Would you like to answer that question?
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-06-2005, 8:58 PM
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yes
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11-06-2005, 9:00 PM
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Grant, You continue to amaze me with the stuff you come up with.
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Join Date: Feb 2001
11-07-2005, 8:44 AM
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Grant, I think molded in LEDs would be somewhat better. Once you pick a color, I suspect you would rarely change the color. The only negative is you can't easily stock pile handles and LEDs to make any color.
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Join Date: Apr 2002
11-07-2005, 11:37 AM
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I assume you are able to reuse the blue mold? And more details, lol. What materials? brands? how long? Can you make a video? Sorry, this is a first for me, never seen anybody do this at home. Very kewl Grant
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Join Date: May 2002
11-07-2005, 6:20 PM
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Hey G, I bought a ton of leds online. One thing I have noticed is that not all of them are perfect. I think it would be better to be able to remove them and change them out.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-08-2005, 7:41 AM
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Yea with the clusetrs you can test them befor you istall them. Im guessing if they are ok when you install them that they will last.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-08-2005, 7:45 AM
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Anyone have a good source on the LED cluster's
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11-08-2005, 7:53 AM
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Hey Grant: Anytime you can minimize the seams, cracks, grooves, etc. You will make cleaning easier. Spiders like to nest in tight places as well as those little wormy things that pack mud in crevases. Maybe you don't have those around you ; but here in the midwest we have all sorts of creepy crawley things that get into everywhere.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-08-2005, 9:12 AM
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Yea thats a good point about the crud in the crack's. Im gonna epoxy the lights in the back side of the handles. The handles will be stronger and smoother with the gap's filled. It sounds like the LED clusters are pretty reliable and I wont have a problem with them needing to be changed out. And its not like Im gonna mass produce them.
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Join Date: Apr 2003
11-08-2005, 11:23 AM
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Grant, I got my clusters at: http://www.superbrightleds.com/mini_tubes.htm THe ones you posted look the same so I'm assuming you are looking for a better vender. But if not they worked out well for me. I would fill the gaps. Will be cleaner and feel better like you said.
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Join Date: Feb 2001
11-08-2005, 11:38 AM
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I have been looking for some surface mount LEDs to put along my deck overlooking my dock. These looks interesting. I think I will have to buy a few and see if they would work.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-08-2005, 11:38 AM
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Grant, Just out of curiosity, why not make the handles a little less angular on the inside edge, then groove them and use strip l.e.d. Then clear epoxy the rest of the groove to make them smooth. I realize you a long way into this project and now is not the time to change. Was just curious if you thought about going that route, and if so why not.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-08-2005, 12:46 PM
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Chris: I was thinking about the LED strip's but after seing how much light they throw out I wanted somthing super "BLING" bright LOL but yes a single LED strip with 4 led's Im sure would work. But that's not how we roll, I also wanted to copy the stock desighn but make it with just a bit more shape. When the lights are momunted and I add the rest of the epoxy to the hole's it will be pretty smooth under there. I just orderd some lights today so when they get here Ill light it up and post a pic. Im sure they will be pretty bright. Charles: Thanks for the hook up with the LED's.
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Join Date: Feb 2002
11-08-2005, 1:09 PM
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Grant Any time. Its a shame that Niel is hitting people with such high prices.
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11-08-2005, 1:45 PM
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Grant I have some surface mounted led's on a sort of tape. They would be easy to mount on the back side witha small dado cut. They are super bright. I got mine to do the lighted speaker rings. they are kinda spendy but they are super small. Chas I couldn't agree more with you on the prices.
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Join Date: Jan 2004
11-08-2005, 4:34 PM
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Grant you are a multitude of mechanisms....... I wish we lived closer so you could do my work, alas I will have to pick you r brain when I get ready to bling my ride. First we have to get racks and a heater you know the essentials first. itch
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Join Date: Jan 2004
11-14-2005, 4:53 PM
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O.K. Neil Is Now back to a sole propritership, what this means is I am now in charge of pricing, as well as everything else. So from here on out pricing goes back to the way it should be, Cheap, with the best products on the market. Neil Fett litupelectronics@gmail.com
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Join Date: Jan 2004
11-15-2005, 6:06 PM
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Damn nice grant, now get those lights in. itch
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Join Date: May 2002
11-15-2005, 6:07 PM
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G! What does the mounting feet look like? Show me the back side!!! Please Please!
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11-15-2005, 7:49 PM
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Grant, I don't know exactly what I would do with this, but I thought I'd put it on your radar screen in case is sparks something: Light Tape
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-15-2005, 8:15 PM
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The back side has stud's comming threw the handles with a nut pressed between the handle and the stud head. You cant see where the stud goes into the handle because after I drilled the hole I put the stud in and filled the hole. The lay up went real nice the weave is nice and straight and I got the carbon fiber to wrap all the way around to the back side. (Message edited by grant_west on November 15, 2005)
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11-15-2005, 8:17 PM
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11-15-2005, 8:26 PM
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Those look so sick. Mad props
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Join Date: Aug 2003
11-15-2005, 10:10 PM
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Awesome as usual...
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11-15-2005, 10:25 PM
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Wow.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
11-16-2005, 7:57 AM
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I wanted to see how bright the cluster's are so I just set them in the handle to take a look. All the led's seem to point at the same spot when the handle is close to the mounting surface. It does make a differace with 3 clusters compaired to 1 cluster
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11-16-2005, 10:04 AM
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We're not worthy!
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11-16-2005, 11:06 AM
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Dude keep the sweet schite coming - I really enjoy watching the progress on your projects! So fresh n so fresh n clean. Thanks for the posts!
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Join Date: May 2004
11-16-2005, 1:33 PM
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Grant you have the most amazing custom boat. Not that I could afford it but How much would it take for me to buy the bling machine?
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11-16-2005, 4:19 PM
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"How much would it take for me to buy the bling machine" ONE Milllllieion Dollars Muuuhaaaaaaaaaa!
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11-17-2005, 2:44 AM
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Grant what would it take for you guys to come down to TX and do an insane setup in a Donzi ZX. The boats worth about 335,000 and he wants the best stereo and installers But if your intrested work me up a quote and will get rolling on it. Neil
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11-17-2005, 10:19 AM
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Be careful Grant, you might get stuck in Texas. Neil, Unless your ready to fly some one out there and back there is no way to quote some thing like that with out going through the boat and talking with the owner.
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Join Date: Jan 2004
11-17-2005, 2:45 PM
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Already done. I told Mark the owner of the boat that these guys are the topdogs. Then I showed him some of there work and he was extremely impressed.
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11-19-2005, 7:13 PM
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11-19-2005, 7:14 PM
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11-19-2005, 7:35 PM
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very cool final prduct. That Carbon fiber looks great.
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11-19-2005, 8:40 PM
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Night pictures my boy it's all bout the ladies and the night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-19-2005, 9:27 PM
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The night shots didnt turn out very well
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11-19-2005, 10:04 PM
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I can't really tell how they look from the pictures, I will need another day out on the BLING machine to check them out!!! Looking good. Mike
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Join Date: Jan 2004
11-19-2005, 10:26 PM
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freakin brillant grant just plain freakin brillant.. ........bet a picture from say behind the boat showing the interior would be just sick. ITCH
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Join Date: Jul 2004
11-20-2005, 8:55 AM
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DUDE...That's just plain UGLY!!! J\K.. I know you don't need me to say it's clean to be DOPE!! To bad my X-2 doesn't have any handles..
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Join Date: Jun 2005
12-14-2005, 5:28 AM
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Nice work Grant, i do carbon fiber work, it looks like you've got the process down pretty good.
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Join Date: Feb 2005
12-14-2005, 9:07 PM
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I know how difficult it is to photo led's! I can also imagine what they look like in person. Very nice work - the high gloss finish on the handles is stellar.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
12-14-2005, 9:14 PM
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Hey Scott: Thanks what exactley do you do with Carbon Fiber
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