I've read those threads for sure. I think its all a matter of opinion. I'd suggest evaluating that in a test drive if I were you before drawing any conclusions. Some folks love it. I dont think I would go for it personally...but I would also pick the 23 over the Avy...so that would make it tough. I am just jealous overall that you get to make this decision
For now, I settle for the nice wave we get out of my 20'8" Cyclone. Still a happy Centurion owner though.