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Old     (old_school_225)      Join Date: Nov 2008       11-17-2008, 6:44 AM Reply   
I wanted to take a peek at one this winter. I went to the Epic site, and of the 7 dealerships listed, half of them did not have any boats. Boat Trader online did not have any close to me either.

Are they still a viable company, and are they going to be doing the boat show circuit this winter?

Are they looking to expand east with thier dealerships?

If someone were to get one that did live over a thousand miles from the closest dealer, how would the warranty work be handled?
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       11-17-2008, 7:41 AM Reply   
I think their gettin pwned along with many other companies. This is not the time for an up and coming company.
Old     (usostyle)      Join Date: Apr 2006       11-17-2008, 8:52 AM Reply   
Don't know anything about the stability of Epic as a company, but would imagine they are probably hurting right now like all the other recent 'start-ups'.

You may want to call Tyrell @ Prestige Water Sports here in Boise, ID. I know he recently sold an Epic to a guy in Ohio or somewhere back east. He could probably answer your ?'s about warranty work, expansion etc. I know he has 1 in stock right now, '07, white. I have demo'd it twice now and like it for what it is. It's definitely a 'niche' boat, probably not for everyone. It's not 'bling-bling-y' & kind of has a 'rugged' (a good rugged) feel to it in the interior vs. a plush MC/BU feel. Nice surf wake, nice 'looking' wakeboarding wake (i didn't ride the wakeboarding wake). I really liked all 4000lbs below the floor ballast. Huge cavernous storage areas all over the boat, in-floor cooler is kind of cool. Transom speakers were cool too. Drives and handles 'pretty good' considering what it is.

Give him a call, cool guy, Tyrell @ Prestige Water Sports (208) 343-1983. Good luck.
Old     (snacks)      Join Date: Oct 2008       11-17-2008, 9:17 AM Reply   
old timer,
I am one of the dealers here in Utah. I have an 08 black Epic in stock. We really like working with Epic. They have been around long enough that they are still making plans for the future, they are not going to drop out. The warranty work can be handled by any merc certified dealer. It's pretty standard stuff and like ICE-a said the boat really is not for everyone, not the greatest family boat, but if your all about the sports it is awsome.Upload
Old     (john30)      Join Date: Nov 2003       11-17-2008, 8:39 PM Reply   
I just demoed an Epic a couple weeks ago Old Timer. I think that they are a pretty sick boat with the transom audio and the dual rudders. It turns a helluva lot better than my current V-Drive. I think the 8.1 liter is a pretty good choice for powerplant. I didn't like a couple features like the straps that hang out for accessing the hatches and the rod for holding up the engine compartment hatch. I would likely have these items fixed. I definitely think this is my next boat though. It gets on plane pretty quick with a lot of weight in it. Surf wake looked pretty sweet too. I will demo prolly three more boats but I think so far Epic is the one.Upload
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Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       11-18-2008, 10:53 AM Reply   
not sure where in the east you are, but one was just posted for sale on OIB that is in MD for 60k with the Camo wrap.
Old     (wakeboardsam)      Join Date: Jun 2008       11-18-2008, 11:19 AM Reply   
What's the fuel consumption with the Epic?? I can go about 5 hours before we go through a tank of gas on my Malibu and my brother's SAN can go about twice that, both weighted to get a nice wake...

How long does the Epic go with all that ballast?
Old     (snacks)      Join Date: Oct 2008       11-18-2008, 11:44 AM Reply   
The nice thing about the 8.1 is it has a ton of torq, who cares about horsepower. With that torq it gets on plane faster so you burn less fuel at high rpms. We had a demo day at Utah Lake and only used maybe 1/4 to half in about 6 to 7 hours and the boat was running most of the time. We have done that a couple of times down there.
John were you with Gary? That looks like the Epic Van.
Old     (old_school_225)      Join Date: Nov 2008       11-18-2008, 4:05 PM Reply   
I am in the midwest, east in comparison to all the dealers- MD is too far east! I appreciate the help though.

For dealers and those in the know-
Has anyone seen one of these things in shallow water?
My main riding spot is anywhere between 5-15 feet during the summer. I have dinged a prop or 2 coming out of the hole with my 02 x-star... How much deeper of a draft does the epic have and how much does the back end drop on start-up?


On a side note, I find it amusing that the guy who made this gas-hog also made a 300 mpg plug in hybrid.
Old     (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       11-18-2008, 5:03 PM Reply   
Epic is built at fineline now which builds many other companies such as supreme who has been around for a long time and is not going to disappear anytime soon so I would think that they have a good hold to stay around for some time to come
Old     (john30)      Join Date: Nov 2003       11-18-2008, 8:18 PM Reply   
Yeah Snacks it was Gary. Pretty good dude. That van is sick too.
Old     (rbeckei)      Join Date: May 2007       11-19-2008, 6:44 AM Reply   
Epic is now in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. You can see it at Calgary PowerBoats. They are the dealer for Epic in Calgary. Ask for Keith, great person.
Old     (steve_jones)      Join Date: Jun 2006       11-19-2008, 9:37 AM Reply   
I cannot imagine breaking into a market like the one we have at all - but these guys at Epic are doing it. Slowly but surely, they are winning people over with their commitment to our sport. And they are constantly trying to improve on the boat. With some of the big 3 spending ridiculous amounts of money on advertising (PWT, magazines, events, etc) it is very expensive to play ball at the top level. For example, I own an 08' MasterCraft X-Star, and I can tell you, in my humble guesstimate, that a more than usual percentage of the cost, is strictly to cover their overwhelming advertising budget. Do you really think the "Boat Review" issue of WBM is free, or for that matter, completely unbiased each year? Big props to Chris and Gary for trying to mix it up at all. Not easy, not cheap. I hope that they can make it!
Old     (rodltg2)      Join Date: Oct 2005       11-19-2008, 10:24 AM Reply   
If anyone wants one , now is a great time. Take advantage of this ecomony. This boat would normally sell at or close too 65K. I just had this one serviced and ready to go.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-Epic-23V-Wakeboard-Boat_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a 2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2 ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem220311868056QQitemZ22031186805 6QQptZPowerQ5fMotorboats
Old     (ridetige)      Join Date: Oct 2008       11-19-2008, 11:37 AM Reply   
How durable is that wrap? if it is scratched, does it rip?
Old     (rodltg2)      Join Date: Oct 2005       11-19-2008, 11:50 AM Reply   
the wrap is very thick, but it will sratch if you not carefull. However if scrathed it won't start to rip or peel.
Old     (dadthedriver)      Join Date: Jul 2004       11-19-2008, 10:33 PM Reply   
Old Timer, We have no problem on our private lake that is only 3.5-4 feet around the corners and 5 to 6 feet in the straights. It actually kicks up less mud then Our VLX. It also makes a huge wake on the shallow lake. by far the biggest wake we have had on the lake.
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       11-22-2008, 9:53 AM Reply   
My pops is down in San Diego right now with my little bros and he's gonna take a look at the factory hopefully he will take some pics and I will try to upload them when he's back.
Old     (oakley84)      Join Date: Nov 2008       11-22-2008, 12:58 PM Reply   
transom speakers.... interesting, I may have to check that in person.
Old     (mkrueger313)      Join Date: Jan 2007       11-25-2008, 1:57 PM Reply   
can anyone tell us a little more about the transom speakers??? i know its move the tower speakers back so the cockpit is supposed to be a little more quiet but are they effective??? can you hear them wile riding??
Old     (mikeski)      Join Date: Aug 2003       11-25-2008, 6:27 PM Reply   
8.1 vs transom speakers...

8.1 round 1
8.1 round 2
8.1 round 3

maybe audible if it had fresh air exhaust
Old     (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       11-25-2008, 8:16 PM Reply   
Maybe the American boat manufactures should go to congress to ask for a few billion since unlike GM/FORD/CHRYSLER they don't suck and they are hurting.
Old     (rodltg2)      Join Date: Oct 2005       11-26-2008, 10:10 AM Reply   
they sound good, however if you want some loud music , you cant beat the combo!! 6 tower speakers and 6 transom. This can be all yours for 45K!!!

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Old     (polkaking27)      Join Date: Feb 2005       11-26-2008, 5:19 PM Reply   
Hey Rod,

What boat is that? The transom audio has since changed in design. Was that an earlier boat with a new wrap on it?
Old     (rodltg2)      Join Date: Oct 2005       11-26-2008, 6:14 PM Reply   
its the last one made with the old audio set up. So its the first production 08 with a wrap
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       11-26-2008, 7:00 PM Reply   
i wouldn't exactly call that an '08.
Old     (nsolis220)      Join Date: May 2007       11-26-2008, 7:20 PM Reply   
whats the new set up like?? Joe why wouldnt you call it an 08 just wondering? Thats a hell of a deal, I wish i had my boat sold already
Old     (rodltg2)      Join Date: Oct 2005       11-27-2008, 9:42 AM Reply   
From what I understand, the hull was also one of the last ones manufactured in Canada, where most the 08 were manufactured at the Fineline Plant. essentially the same boat except the audio is clarion vs. kicker.
Old     (polkaking27)      Join Date: Feb 2005       11-27-2008, 10:49 AM Reply   
Joe,
Whats up. Hows everything going? You still hanging out with Gary in San Diego?
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       11-27-2008, 11:03 AM Reply   
that's an '07 w/ an '08 wrap.

rod, don't you sell epics?

what's up cody? everything's a-ok. could be better, but i'm much better than a lot of people in this tough times. haven't seen gary in about a year. hope you're doing well.
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       11-27-2008, 1:24 PM Reply   
yeah joe is right, the 07's have the transom like that, the 08's u can see the speakers.
Old     (rodltg2)      Join Date: Oct 2005       11-28-2008, 10:37 AM Reply   
your both wrong, its an 08 which i can prove to you. like i said before it was the last one built with the clarion stereo. it may have been built in 07 , but was never completed and rigged till 08, therefore it got an 08 stamp.
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       11-28-2008, 2:25 PM Reply   
Oh I didnt get that part, sorry.
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       11-28-2008, 5:21 PM Reply   
07 parts w/ an 08 stamp?
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       11-29-2008, 4:05 PM Reply   
I think thats what he means

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