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07-02-2013, 9:42 PM
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okay guys so im looking for a older dd wakeboard boat under 20 feet and open bow. what are some options that throw a great wake? The boat needs to be 20 feet or less since my lake has a 20 foot limit
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07-02-2013, 11:47 PM
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Centurion made some under 20' with an open bow. The would be less than 10k from the '90s
Can't comment on the wake.
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07-03-2013, 4:43 AM
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I had a 2000 Tige 20i that was about 20' 6 inches if I recall right. It was titled as a 20 footer. I sold mine 2 summers ago for $13,300, and it had perfect pass, a tower, and racks. It didn't throw a giant wake by any means, but it was solid. That boat had a rear locker, and I was able to mostly fill a 440 pound sack and have it completely hidden. People will complain about the Tige's of that era, but I really had no issues with that boat. I did replace the interior when I bought it due to a combination of a couple missing cushions and the seams being bad on the doghouse and rear deck.
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07-03-2013, 4:47 AM
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Supra builds the Sunsport which is probably one of the best surf/wake open family boats from the early era. Supreme made their Sierra model. Correct Craft made the martinique. A nautique supersport went for 9K this spring near me. All those are 10K or under boats, and open bows.
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07-03-2013, 6:08 AM
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Jeremiah how old would you say is the best sun setter?
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07-03-2013, 6:10 AM
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I use a Malibu response, put the wedge on it, tower (or pylon), have a 440 on each side of the motor box, and have another 300 in the bow before adding people + gear weight. As good as it gets for a low-displacement hull.
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Location: Midlothian TX
07-03-2013, 6:26 AM
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Was just about to post these in your other thread, but look in the classifieds on here. There's a couple good options that meet your requirements and look to be in good shape:
1998 Mailbu:
http://www.wakeworld.com/classifield....php?view=3510
2000 MC prostar 205, just needs a tower:
http://www.wakeworld.com/classifield....php?view=3453
1998 MC prostar 205, ready to go:
http://www.wakeworld.com/classifield....php?view=3447
There was also a 2002 X10 listed in your budget that looked really nice, but I'm pretty sure it's over 20' if I remember right:
http://www.wakeworld.com/classifield....php?view=3512
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07-03-2013, 6:26 AM
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i got a Tige 20i for sale if a 20'6" boat would fit the bill.... just email me at petrey10@hotmail.com for details
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Midlothian TX
07-03-2013, 7:23 AM
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20' Supra that is just a shade over your budget, but looks to be in really nice shape, and is pretty well set up:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...-Legacy-360259
Nice looking Moomba, just needs a trailer:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...back-LS-362006
Also found this Sanger V210 V-drive. They claim it's 20', but I'm skeptical of that. But for the price it's worth checking out (the outdoor patio speakers on the tower would have be scrapped though, LOL):
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/19...er-V210-351480
Another Sanger that has a power pole instead of a tower, but could get the job done:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/19...-Sanger-356515
An older MB that needs a tower, but already has PP:
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...Plus-101687604
There's a bunch of options out there, you just have to search a bit harder to meet your criteria. And remember to look just a little over your budget too. Honestly there's no reason that you shouldn't be able to negotiate someone's $17,000 price down into your budget. If not, you're not trying nearly hard enough
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07-03-2013, 8:47 AM
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Andrew, you really want to be sure on the 20' limit. Does it matter what it is titled at, or does it matter what they measure it at? I suspect you want one that is under 20' when you measure it from stem to stern. Find out. It would not be fun to have a 20' 2" boat you just bought that is not allowed on your lake.
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07-03-2013, 10:21 AM
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I'd look for a prostar 205 or 190 or a nautique 2001.
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07-03-2013, 10:58 AM
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You need to go to a different lake!
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07-03-2013, 12:08 PM
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Andrew, are you talking the Malibu Sunsetter? Another solid boat, but I've never ridden behind one. I believe Malibu went full composite around 92? But finding one for under 10K might be a challenge. They throw a nice wake from what I understand.
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07-03-2013, 12:20 PM
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that boat is a scam. Its on only inboards too. Sure are alot of scam boats on ww lately...
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The boat is located in Fieldale, Virginia.
It has absolutely no mechanical problems, no scratches, it is like new, clear title in hand. The price is $14,500 for it.
The pics are attached.
The deal will be done trough Amazon Payments (visit their website: Amazon Payments), I want to use them because I'm not able to close the deal myself.
Let me know if you are still interested and I will explain you the deal.
Thank You!
Jeremy Stone
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and from a month ago
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Subject: Re: 2001 Malibu Wakesetter VLX
ummm yea if you can explain. No offense just sounds fishy
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Jeremy Stone wrote:
The boat is located in Huntsville, AL.
It has absolutely no mechanical problems, no scratches, it is like new, clear title in hand. The price is $13,000 for it.
The deal will be done trough Escrow.com (www.escrow.com) you can call them at: 888-511-8600 or 949-635-3800
I want to use them because I'm not able to close the deal myself.
Let me know if you are still interested and I will explain you the deal.
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07-03-2013, 1:29 PM
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http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/boa/3898197650.html
Super solid boat that is right on 10K(with negotiating) and fits your limitations.
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07-03-2013, 6:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hco
I use a Malibu response, put the wedge on it, tower (or pylon), have a 440 on each side of the motor box, and have another 300 in the bow before adding people + gear weight. As good as it gets for a low-displacement hull.
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Agree totally! My Malibu Response I'm selling in the classifieds has a solid wake when u put the wedge down, 700 lbs in the back & a 400 lb bag in the front. Pretty decent pop too! The engine doesn't even think about struggling either. Just selling to get more room for the kids. Good Luck!
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07-03-2013, 6:35 PM
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I can vouch for the response too, but do not put a tower on it( the pylon works fine), thats like throwing money away, the reason the boats keep their price is because skiers are always looking to buy them( skiitagain.com ) I even surfed behind mine, not a big surf but definitely surfable, just make sure it has the wedge, I had to sell mine because I had a 2005 VLX setting in the driveway.
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07-03-2013, 6:48 PM
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Has the response always had the diamond hull or did it ever have the "wake" hull like the echelon had?
Nevermind, I figured it out. 93-97 Echelon's and Response's had the SV23 "wake" hull. 98 and on Respone's had the SV23 Diamond hull.
How much does it matter for wakeboarding wake does that matter on those boats? I would guess a big deal as usually the diamond hulls need more weight and with as low profile as those boats are it might be tough to get a lot of weight in one.
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07-03-2013, 7:25 PM
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i dont know where you are but just traded in my 1989 sunsport 20 ft and i think they are selling it for around 10k it has aluminum trailer and tower on it it in houston at rinker boat world
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07-03-2013, 8:23 PM
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austin how was the wake behind the sunsport?
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07-03-2013, 8:59 PM
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it was great for what it was i mean the hule was used untill a couple of years ago than supra changed it
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07-03-2013, 10:03 PM
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do you have any pictures of the wake?
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Midlothian TX
07-04-2013, 4:07 AM
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How does that boat fit his needs when it's 21' long? Great boat, too bad it won't be allowed on his lake...
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07-05-2013, 5:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FastR3DN3K
How does that boat fit his needs when it's 21' long? Great boat, too bad it won't be allowed on his lake...
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Because the people advertising the boat don't actually know how long it is. Supra's Sunsport is 19'6" and I have spoken with several folks right at Skier's Choice to confirm this. It's nice to have it listed on the registration as 19'6" when a police officer asks!
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07-05-2013, 9:17 AM
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Originally Posted by machloosy
Because the people advertising the boat don't actually know how long it is. Supra's Sunsport is 19'6" and I have spoken with several folks right at Skier's Choice to confirm this. It's nice to have it listed on the registration as 19'6" when a police officer asks!
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Not all sunsports are 19'6" are they? It is weird that in the 80's they were that length but in the 90's they went to 21. I figured they kept the running surface the same but changed the above water line some.
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07-05-2013, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by polarbill
Not all sunsports are 19'6" are they? It is weird that in the 80's they were that length but in the 90's they went to 21. I figured they kept the running surface the same but changed the above water line some.
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You might have a point... I entirely forgot that the boat changed. If that's the case, I stand corrected
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07-08-2013, 12:49 PM
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I know you said DD, but:
Mastercraft 205V (20.5'). From 1999 to 2002 it was the X-Star, and the towboat of the X-Games and Pro Wake Tour. It also uses mastercraft's tournament approved 205 hull. Most have towers and can be had for 11-15K. Great all around boat. Over 30mph the slalom wake is almost identical to a DD 205.
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07-08-2013, 12:57 PM
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I know you said DD, but:
Mastercraft 205V (20.5'). From 1999 to 2002 it was the X-Star, and the towboat of the X-Games and Pro Wake Tour. It also uses mastercraft's tournament approved 205 hull. Most have towers and can be had for 11-15K. Great all around boat. Over 30mph the slalom wake is almost identical to a DD 205.
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I don't know where you're finding 205V's for 11-15k on a consistent basis, but let me know so I can flip them and earn about 10 grand profit on each one. More realistically these boats are priced in the 19-25k range. The 205 DD will be closer to 11-15k.
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