crow / ole bottom line

How do you identify?

Whats the legitimate, short answer to this...

I don't think there is one, some riders like lyman and watson are getting so off axis with their ole's that they look inverted like a crow. I can't really say much though because I can't do either..

Maybe someone who can do both can come in and explain the difference, I'm sure the difference is in the approach and when you hit the wake, I just don't know what that difference is

For an Ole, there is a distinctive "swoop" over the head with the handle.

...which btw Soven's crow 7 did not have, making it a crow 7.

If the feet go above the head it is a scarecrow. If the feet stay equal or below the head I would call it ole.

Alright since this is about the name of tricks I'm going to ask a few questions I've always wanted to know.
Im fairly new to wakeboarding so don't destroy me for sounded retarded.
Why does a heelside backroll look like a frontflip to me? haha
What do you call a tantrum with a frontside and or backside 3
I know a heelside backroll with a blind 3 is a KGB right?
and heelside backroll with front 3 is...?
and how about toeside now haha
backroll with front 3... pete rose? or is that only with the grab?
how about front roll with blind 3 and backroll with front 3?

If someone takes the time to answer all of those ill be impressed hahah

(Message edited by adambarry on April 27, 2009)

Adam, the heelside backroll that looks like a frontflip is called a mexican backroll. It is another way of doing a backroll where people essentially do a frontflip off the wake instead of tip over tail.
Tantrum with a backside 3 handle pass is a moby dick. Tantrum with a backside 3 rotated over head is a whirly bird. Tantrum with a frontside 3 is called a Beaver Eater.
Yes to the KGB question.
Heelside backroll with frontside 3 is a heelside mobe
Toeside backroll with a frontside 3 is called a pete rose, blind 3 is called a blind pete rose.
Front roll with a blind 3 is a dum dumn
Front roll with a front 3 is a crow mobe.

hahah thanks that clears that up a ton for me!
so much less confusion now

welcome

I'm with J-Rod on this one. It's more about that swoop than anything. Most peoples crowmobes aren't all that inverted and most ole's are pretty much on the same axis.