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Join Date: May 2007
10-26-2007, 10:46 PM
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In nor cal, where could I take my boat to have a ballast system installed? perfer 3 bag system, btw its for a 03 Nautique Super Sport. Thanks
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Join Date: Jul 2007
10-27-2007, 6:33 AM
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I'm doing an install over the winter due to the fact that my local shop charges close to $3000 for parts and labor
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Join Date: May 2003
10-27-2007, 7:50 AM
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bags figure $300-400, jabsco ballast puppies retail at $275 a piece, so $825. $200 for hose fittings wiring ect. And anything over 5hrs they are ripping you off. I used to install ballast systems at a dealership and shop rate was $125 an hour. All added up your $2250 or so.
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Join Date: Aug 2007
10-27-2007, 9:09 AM
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do some searching on here, it is really easy to do yourself. and save a boat load of money. just read all the articles and figure out which setup you like the best.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
10-27-2007, 10:13 AM
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You have the whole winter to figure it out and save you a ton of money. As mentioned above, there is tons of information on how to do it right and alot of willing people to lead you in the right direction
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Join Date: Aug 2007
10-27-2007, 10:34 AM
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You pay for a plane ticket, room and board, and a couple bucks and I will do it for you. Seriously.
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Join Date: May 2007
10-27-2007, 2:25 PM
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There are a few good posts on DIY installs. I wish I could see some of them in person.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
10-27-2007, 2:49 PM
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i installed one on a customers boat up here in fresno. we really didn't want to install it so we told the customer 3,500 hoping that he would say it was too much but he was totally fine with it. hahahaha. it wasn't that bad to install. Contact Tige Performance Boats in Arizona. their number is 480-655-9055. the owners son makes a aftermarket ballast system call the Rival System. thats the one that i uses and it worked great. you tell him what boat you have and what you looking to do and he'll send you everything you need (pumps, bags, wires, tubing, switches, seriously everything)
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Join Date: Oct 2005
10-28-2007, 9:18 AM
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I have a used 4 pump Rival system that I will sell pulled it out of my XTi and don't need it now
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Join Date: Oct 2005
10-28-2007, 10:49 AM
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Montgomery, I sent you an e-mail just let me know...thanks
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Join Date: Jun 2005
10-28-2007, 3:18 PM
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I would not do anything without checking out some of the ballast installs on Planet Nautique. There are several very detailed threads with pictures for SuperAir/SuperSports with 3 bag systems.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
10-28-2007, 4:42 PM
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Ours was like $500 - for pro-x sacs $250 - wire, switches, tubing and fittings $220 - pumps about $1000, rule 4000, the best pump ever
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Join Date: Apr 2005
10-28-2007, 8:08 PM
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I just did my 2000 SAN over the summer and it was really pretty simple. I used jabsco pumps and did everything for around $800. If you want some pics let me know. My design was a 4 sac setup with a Integrated Bow sac which is definately worth doing on that hull.
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Join Date: May 2007
10-31-2007, 10:46 AM
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Yea any pics would be great
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Join Date: Mar 2007
10-31-2007, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: May 2003
10-31-2007, 1:35 PM
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I wouldnt trust anything glued or soldered in a boat. The vibration will crack the joints in a matter of years. Not coast gaurd approved, not ABYC approved. Use threaded connections or hose.
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Join Date: Jun 2002
10-31-2007, 2:40 PM
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The copper held up fine without cracking. I wasn't really worried about CGA. I did end up re doing that this year though cause one of my pumps went out. Didn't think about that when I soldered it altogether The systems other than that has been solid and running for 3 years. I just made a pvc manifold and ran individual hoses to each pump but still split off the fresh water intake.
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Join Date: May 2003
10-31-2007, 6:16 PM
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id just hate so see someones boat damaged or sunk, its not more trouble to do it the right way, so why not.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
10-31-2007, 9:15 PM
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if he hasn't had a problem ever, it would seem he did it the right way
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Join Date: Jan 2007
10-31-2007, 9:23 PM
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^^ if you go a year, or a matter of years, and don't check your shiz every year you DESERVE to have you boat damaged or sunk. There's about nine ways from sunday to do a DIY ballast for pennies on the dollar compared to how a dealer would do it (truth in the fact that I could of paid $400 for my dealer to winterize my boat for the same cost of my DI'Myeself' that cost only about $75); but as long as you check on it regularly you will be just fine - that's great dealers/manufacturers do it one way, but check the "ballast doesn't matter thread" for why dealers spew crap to make a dollar; and also look at the overall manufacturing process for why boat companies do certain things to put together x amount of boats a year. I do appreciate doing it the right way, but at the same time 'doing it the right way' is too damn expensive for some folk when doing it another way will suffice just fine for half the cost. (Message edited by Sinkoumn on October 31, 2007)
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Join Date: Jun 2002
11-01-2007, 7:37 AM
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WAlove- I do have a shut off valve in there if there is a problem I can isolate the ballast system. I would definitely recommend that.
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Join Date: Jul 2006
11-01-2007, 12:43 PM
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I did it on my 95 super sport. It wasn't that bad, I used one bag under the sun pad, one in the ski locker, and two in the back. I only used one pump to save money so after about one beer it done filling up. Its not that hard, all I did was research it on this board first. I have pics if you need them.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
11-01-2007, 2:46 PM
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600.00 total for me, Thats what they charged me at the dealer to get the factory set up, I already had the two bags for the rear....
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Join Date: May 2002
11-01-2007, 3:18 PM
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Nick, do you have a link to somewhere that has the Rule 4000? I can find it in a bilge pump model only....thanks.
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Join Date: May 2002
11-03-2007, 1:49 PM
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Bump, anything Nick?
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Join Date: May 2003
11-03-2007, 7:53 PM
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i've never seen 4000 gph's in a aireator style (inlet and outlet) The biggest i've seen is 3700 gph. http://www.reddenmarine.com/site/new-detail.cfm?id=RUL17A Are you planning to use one as a fill pump with silinoids diverting flow to seperate sacs. And then seperate out pumps for each sac. As for soldering in boats, i just though people should know the dangers involved. You post a picture like that and people get ideas. Same kind of risk as installing simers (a non ignition protected pump) inside the engine compartment. Not as big as a risk up top but i'd still run the blower before runnning the pumps.
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