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Old     (lfs56)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-21-2007, 7:11 PM Reply   
i have a friend thats got an awesome wake, and tower, but he only has his dad pull at.....get this....15mph!!!!!!!!!!!! i try telling him he needs to at least be in the 20's but he won't listen! what does more speed do for ya?
Old     (longlakerider)      Join Date: Mar 2007       08-21-2007, 7:34 PM Reply   
it helps you cut harder into the wake.
Old     (hyperlite_boards)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-21-2007, 7:40 PM Reply   
i usuall go 18-20 and that seems a fine speed for me but im not doin flips just 360s and other spins the only time i can flip is when im hittin a double up
Old     (biglap)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-21-2007, 8:18 PM Reply   
over 20mph!!!
Old     (wake4chicks)      Join Date: Oct 2006       08-21-2007, 8:50 PM Reply   
my friend was the same, he was still trying to dial in his wake tho. he was riding around 17 or 18. so i told him to hit it around 21 and the improvement was awesome. thw wake just became a lot harder and gave it more of a lip.
Old     (wakeriderixi)      Join Date: Jan 2004       08-21-2007, 10:12 PM Reply   
25mph behind a 2006 Super Air Nautique 220.
Old     (hawk7)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-21-2007, 10:15 PM Reply   
i ride at 15, but when im at a comp and tell em to go 21 it seems slower,

someone told me everyones speedometer is off to some extent.
Old     (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-21-2007, 10:51 PM Reply   
i was riding with some people and they were pulling super slow. the wake was all wash, probably 15 mph. when i rode they said they had never pulled some one that fast. i was probably going 22mph, haha.
Old     (denwbaseball)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-22-2007, 4:46 AM Reply   
Yea that is really slow!!! A heavier rider would sink at that speed!!
Old     (byrd)      Join Date: Dec 2005       08-22-2007, 6:30 AM Reply   
Yeah, 15mph is too slow. Tell your friend to man up, my 6 year old son goes 20-21mph...
Old     (wakeriderixi)      Join Date: Jan 2004       08-22-2007, 6:31 AM Reply   
You need to go at least 21mph behind anything in order to get even a decent ollie without having to cut out first for speed.
Old     (chad_wick88)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-22-2007, 6:52 AM Reply   
haha just for and grins yesterday i went 42 behind a sea doo. pretty stupid i know but it make for some good laughs

(Message edited by chad_wick88 on August 22, 2007)
Old     (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-22-2007, 7:12 AM Reply   
Yeah 15MPH is way too slow for most, but if he has a clean wake, Jared you did say it was an 'awesome wake', who cares how fast he goes? There is no correct speed. Most people will start to go faster with time as they develop more control and like it has been posted, 15MPH on his speedo may be more like 18 or 20 in real life.

To answer your original question, more speed can generally clean up a frothy wake, narrow the wake, make the wake firmer, and give the rider more speed with the same cut to the wake, and makes the water harder which is good for ollies and bad for crashes.
Old     (ronnyboy27)      Join Date: Nov 2005       08-22-2007, 8:10 AM Reply   
The right speed will depend on the boat and weight distribution. Gradually speed up in 1/2 mph increments until the wake is crisp. Don't listen to those that say ride at this speed or that we will vary our speed based on what we have in the boat. Rope length will also play a factor.
Old     (lfs56)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-23-2007, 7:11 PM Reply   
k, cuz when i got pulled behind his boat and the wake was pretty clean and big, i just felt like i was getting pulled through mud or somethin...felt like it was slower than 15 he told me it might've been 12 i did notice i couldn't edge as good
Old     (nasty530)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-23-2007, 7:16 PM Reply   
I find that it is actually easier to cut and gather up sketchy landings when I ride faster. I prefer 20-22 mph GPS.
Old     (lfs56)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-23-2007, 7:24 PM Reply   
^ ya, i usually ride around 22-24
Old     (drilldaddy78)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-23-2007, 7:29 PM Reply   
Someone explain this to me. My friend has a 2006 centurion and the only way to get a clean wake at 75' is between 32 and 33 mph. He is running no ballast up front. All in the back. Would this have something to do with it?
Old     (lfs56)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-23-2007, 7:41 PM Reply   
thats fast! but i think some of the weight might have to be distributed more evenly?....idk though
Old     (drilldaddy78)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-23-2007, 7:53 PM Reply   
Too fast for me anyway. This is my first season wakeboarding and im no expert. I still have an I/O and we ride 21 mph at 60' with 1000 ballast and 4-5 that seems to give us a really good hard wake. Some of the guys do inverts behind it too. I cant even do a 180 yet but its coming
Old     (04gravitygames)      Join Date: Jan 2006       08-23-2007, 8:08 PM Reply   
2004 Gravity Games SSV
Ballast Full
4- 50lb steel plates under each fat sac in back lockers.
4- 50lb steel plates under center ballast bag up to the bow.
2- 50lb steel plates under each bow cushion
6-8 people
80 off @ 22.5 on perfect pass
Old     (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       08-23-2007, 8:28 PM Reply   
chris- sounds like your still stuck in the water skier world. "80 off @ 22.5 on perfect pass." at 80 feet off you would be at negative 5 feet. hopefully you mean 80'
Old     (04gravitygames)      Join Date: Jan 2006       08-23-2007, 8:31 PM Reply   
DAMN 80' thanks J
Old     (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       08-23-2007, 8:34 PM Reply   
hahaha. no worries dude. but i do think that ur PP might be a lil slow. at 80 feet you should be at more like 24mph
Old     (04gravitygames)      Join Date: Jan 2006       08-23-2007, 8:36 PM Reply   
True.
Your right it is off a little bit.
Old     (jpboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-23-2007, 10:01 PM Reply   
WOW, how could you do anything at 15 mph? I board at 28-30ish and that seems right on for the wake my boat throws out (which is a big one). But w/e, I guess it really is just personal preference and when it comes down to it, its all 'bout havin fun anyway.
Old     (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       08-24-2007, 10:21 AM Reply   
At the ski school I work at I don't think we've ever gone that slow except maybe a 6 year old girls first time riding.... but after she's comfy its up to 18 or so.... just lie to him when he goes, if he says slower just mouth it to his dad but don't say anything, its all mental
Old     (craigystyle_05)      Join Date: Jul 2006       08-24-2007, 1:54 PM Reply   
chris you have my dream boat with what sounds like a dream wake... i ride behind an 07 supra 24 ssv gravity games sometimes... and it's nice but we dont even ride at 80 ft and 22.5 mph... so that wake has gotta be killer...
Old     (bbking)      Join Date: Dec 2006       08-24-2007, 3:01 PM Reply   
i ride at 22-24, but i don't have a wakeboat so 24 makes a thinner, more clearable wake... 22 you have to haul as s to clear the wake
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-24-2007, 3:21 PM Reply   
Trevor, weight up front will help clean it up. To mush weight in the back and it makes the wake rampy which creates white wash.
Old     (scottman)      Join Date: Sep 2002       08-30-2007, 5:32 PM Reply   
This weekend I was skating at 52mph behind a jetski just to see if I could...

23mph for boarding and 20mph for skating.

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