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Join Date: Apr 2006
03-28-2007, 11:18 PM
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I'm sure this has been discussed before but I couldn't find anything in the archives. Anyhow does an earlier 90's ski nautique wake even come close to comparing to the infamous 2001 hull for wakeboarding? Any help/info would be greatly appreciated.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
03-29-2007, 6:31 AM
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I believe they are very different. However, the mid 90's super sport became the more popular 210.
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Join Date: May 2004
03-29-2007, 7:12 AM
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I have never been behind a 90s nautique but I hear that the ski nautique wake is not very good. The sport and supersports put out great wakes though.
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Join Date: Feb 2002
03-29-2007, 7:17 AM
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I had an 86 2001 with a tower and 4 fatsacs... it had a really great wake - my friends had a 1990 that was only a good waterski boat. Now I have a SuperAir. Love it.
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Join Date: Apr 2002
03-29-2007, 8:33 AM
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Ride behind them both... A 2001 with 1200-1500lbs of ballast will give you a serious wake. Compatible with any new wakeboard boats our now! I rode a '93 ski with about the same amount of weight and the wake was good. It's much smoother then a 2001 wake and give you less of a buck or kick. It's smaller but it's good rideble (sp?) wake.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
03-29-2007, 8:45 AM
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I rode behind a 97 Ski Nautique and it does not put out a good wake IMO. It goes from no wake at all to hitting a wall when you load it down, short and steep, just what I expierenced.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
03-29-2007, 8:49 AM
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I've ridden both and owned a 93 SN, Like Tom said the 93 is a good wake with a more transition, but doesn't have the boot a 2001 or a sport will produce. The SN will take more weight (I rode with a fat seat and 1 bag up front) than the 2001 to produce a respectable wake.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
03-29-2007, 8:51 AM
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I think that the hull was lengthened and some relief pockets added on the chines. This slight difference is said to affect the wakeboard wake. I was looking at upgrading to get efi from my 2001 and my dealer said keep what I have over a 90+ closed bow ski. Nice boats for three event stuff but not as good as a 2001 for just wakeboarding.
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Join Date: Feb 2007
03-29-2007, 9:35 AM
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I have a '93 ski and usually ride with 1000-1300lbs. as has been said, the wake is good (nice shape, decent size) but not great or huge. you can definitely have fun with it though. I have also ridden behind a '94 with ~1700lbs in it. that wake was big and also had a real nice shape. i think in '96 they changed the ski nautique hull to the "total surface control hull"...i have read they don't make such a good wake.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
03-29-2007, 12:05 PM
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my exgirlfriend had a 93 sn, and the wake was decent. I have an 86 2001 and the wake with 1500 pounds rivals that of any high end wakeboat today. I think the wake is identical to the SAN.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
03-29-2007, 1:34 PM
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My new ballast 'system' (fully automatic) in my 1985 SN 2001. Oh... and you can see the results... I'm running a solid 1800lbs. plus other stuff. You can see more pics of the ballast install on my Spring 2007 Upgrades page. The wake pic is from last weekend... oh how sweet...
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Join Date: Nov 2005
03-29-2007, 5:42 PM
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No, the 90's SN do not come close to the 2001's. However, the Excels do. In my opinion the Excels and early BFN are better then the 2001's. Looking at the going rate for these boats (dollar to wake value) from highest value to lowest would be BFN, 2001, Excel, and then some then 90's SN. But everyone has an opinion. Me and my friends, some with big boats, have a ton of fun behind my ride with 15-1800lbs pending lard, beer and ice.
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Join Date: Nov 2005
03-29-2007, 5:45 PM
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Oh and Mike your slammed. I love it! 1800 and a few big boys is my very limit. And I only do it on the weekdays as not to get swamped by the wallies.
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Join Date: Nov 2001
03-30-2007, 11:44 AM
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My 2 for what it's worth....the 2001 is one of the steepest (and hardest) wakes I've ever hit. It can get large but the transition is very...VERY...short (think giant curb)...but what has been said above is correct, it will launch you once you get the timing right. Another thing to think about is how narrow the beam of the 2001 is....which only means the width between wakes will also be narrower than some of the bigger boats. I don't have any experience with the other CC DDs, so good luck with whatever you get.
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Join Date: Apr 2002
03-30-2007, 2:52 PM
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That is Issac (A.K.A. funksters) boat and it was definately slammed!
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Join Date: Sep 2006
03-30-2007, 3:07 PM
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short hard progressive edge on the 2001 and you can get booted straight up and come down right on the downside of the other wake. beginners that have ridden my wake actually hate it, they say its too hard (lol) and they dont get good pop, but everytime they edge all the way through they just get launched. and double ups...no one has mentioned those yet. if you can time it right its like getting shot out of a cannon STRAIGHT UP especially if you hit that third roller (but thats the case behind most boats. third ones hardest to hit first one is easy but doesnt do anything 2nd one is the happy medium. ill never forget hittin my first double up behind my 2001, there is nothing like lookin down into the boat and bein way above the tower.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
03-31-2007, 10:12 AM
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the 87' 2001 wake is pretty sick, don't even need a tower / extended pylon etc.
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