decent wake?

hey guys, this is my 2003 tige 20v. its the only wakeboat ive ridden behind, so i dont know how good the wake is. but ive collected a few pics of it and want your opinion. these are pictures of unweighted, with two people in the boat, going 20, at 55' rope length. let me know if its not that great, kindof good, pretty good, or what. i wont take it hard, i just want to know if i need to put weight in it next summer to make it a really good wake. thanks.

That wake is horrible. I could run the slalom course behind that(thats not good). That boat should be able to throw a really good wake with proper weight.

needs weight!

put in lots of weight...should be pretty good then.

There's a wake there?

i see the general consensus, next summer i will get some sacs. however, it is a good improvement over the last boat we had, it was a seadoo.

Beautiful wake at 28' off. I'd be able to get a few bouys.

looks like taps is set at slalom at 35 mph

Thats another pt. It looks like you are going a lot faster than 20mph.

Yeah that looks more like 25 might want to test out the speedo with a gps. 55 feet off at 20 mph the wake should at least look big on camera. If you don't want to add sacs try putting like 10 people in the boat and then see what the wake looks like. It won't be comfortable but it'll give you an idea of what 1000lbs extra ballast looks like. You should be able to get a nice wake out of a 20V.

Mike-for comparrison. Here's my wife behind our Sanger V215. She's at 21mph with only the bow ballast (250lbs) and only one dude in the left corner (180lb flesh sack). She's out about 65'. If you think you're getting air with you current setup, dude, hang on when you actually have a wake to hit. have at it and sack it up.

Yeah, I would have to say thats not a wake its a ripple.

Check your speedo- that's faster than you think. Also Set the taps at 5-7.

Agreed. It looks like you are going way too fast. Forget about the speedometer and go off of the tach. If you have a syncrotech tranny, you should be running around 2700 rpms with a couple of people in the boat. 55 feet of rope is a little short. Let your rope out a little as well...

alright, next time i go out ill check the tach to see. i have perfect pass, and it says im going 20, and the speedomiter says im going 21, so i will check the tach and give you an update. could riding in salt water have something to do with it?

I cant get my Tige 22i wake that flat unless taps is at 0 and I'm going 30+mph. Is you taps at "wakeboard" or 8?

the taps is set at 8, on wakeboard. it doesnt seem to change "that" much if i put the taps to 0. so its got to be something else. ive heard that salt water makes it a little less, but it shouldnt be as much as this. if anyone else has pics of tige boat wakes, it would be appreciated. david, do you have a picture of your tige's wake?

If your Taps os set at 8, you should be getting a much bigger "rooster tail" up the middle of the wake. That wake looks like the Taps is set at 2 or 3. Check the travel of the Taps plate while the boat is out of the water. See if you have a full range of motion. Even with the Taps at 8, it isn't going to make the wake bigger, it will just give it a more defined lip. However, you should definately be able to see a difference in the wake when running at 0 compared to running at 8...

alright, i actually called the tige people about the taps range of motion, it only moves about 3 inches, he says thats as far as its suppssed to go. is it suppsed to move more than that? i could have that checked out though.

Mike, hate to tell ya, but their ain't no wake there -- its not even a bad wake -- its no wake.

ok, i went riding today, and checked the tach while i was going 20 mph, it said it was at 4100 rpms. i also let the rope out 5 ft. so now its at 60. and i liked it better. however, there was not a whole lot of ramp to it. im going to get some sacs for next summer, but something must be wrong if everyone says its smaller than it should be.

4100 rpms is waaaaaaaaaay too high for 20 mph and unweighted.

You should really get a hand held GPS to check your speed. My V210 runs at about 2400 RPM at 21 MPH with out weight. I have a hand held GPS mounted to the dash for reference.

That poor kid. I sure hope he hasn't caught a front edge no way he'd have time to close his eyes. 4100 rpms in a 20V = 30+ mph

The thing I can't understand is how come it doesn't feel fast to him. Was the speedo in his last boat also incorrect?

"only wakeboat I've ever ridden" He doesn't know any better. Slow the boat down until the wake washes over at 60 feet then add a little power is the best advice I can give you if you don't have a GPS.

Sasser, what prop are you running? 4100 is possible if the prop is not correctly matched for your engine or you've crushed one or all of the blades. Prop check!

Mike,

Here is a pic of our 2004 Tige Switch V, basically the same hull as you have. We have 1900lbs. of ballast in it. The stock 4 tank system plus 500lbs in the front walkway, and an extra 300lbs in each rear locker. This pic is with 4 people in the boat, riding at 75' at 23.5mph on GPS.

You will need to weight the front walkway for sure, if not your gonna porpose like crazy. Good luck building your wake.

Man, quit looking at the speedo. 4100 rpms!?!? Slow it down. Slow it way, way down. Like I said, if we ride with no weight and only a couple of people in the boat, we are right around 2700-2750 rpms. We have a 21V with the syncrotech (gear reduction tranny). If we throw a 500lb sack in the walkway and have about four or so people in the boat, we will bump it up to around 2900 rpms. Never had a GPS in the boat, but it is real close to 23 mph (give or take).

Did you at least slow down to 2700 or so rpms and give it a shot? If you are barely on plane at 2700 rpms, like Robert said, you probably have some other problems...

alright, i will definantly get the prop checked. today we are going tubing and what not, maybe somewakeboarding, i will take some pics of the wake. i dont think im going 30, that would be crazy. how far back is the wake supposed to build. i mean, i the above pic, it looks like there is a whole lot more wake for him to extend ihis rope, it doesnt feel like i can extend my rope much more because my wake doesnt go back that far. and i lied, i took a lesson behind a nautique a couple of weeks ago, but forgot about it. he said that they were going 20 mph, and that felt familiar, not like i was moving in slow motion, so i will get the prop checked, and take some pictures at different speeds and different rpms. thanks for all the info guys, i hope i can fix my wake.

Are you getting a lot of vibration when you drive the boat? That is usually one of the first signs of a bent up prop...

So, what was the verdict?

what do you have taps set at?
put taps up to 7 and put more weight

ok, i just took the boat in yesterday to be serviced. i tried going at 2700 rpms, and i went 6 mph. so i know the speed is right, i must have something wrong with the prop. they are going to check it out. i slowed the boat down to 17 mph because i had someone tubing, and the wake was considerably larger. these are of me riding at 60' going about 19.5, with the taps at 7.

this is of me landing, i know its ugly, i just wanted to show how the wake is just about stopped forming at 60' should this be happening?

this is one just comming out of a turn, im not sure if it straitend out by that picture.

this is just one more.

What size prop do you have on the boat? Is it a three blade or four blade? If you go look at the hub of the prop, right behind the prop nut, you will see some numbers. You should see 13X13 or 14X16.5 something like that. What do you see?

Because 6 mph at 2700 rpms isn't right...

his tach is probably off, he's riding in salt water... more buoyant = less wake
if he's riding at 20 then the wake probably will wash towards 60ish feet

like i said, the boat is at the shop, so i cant check it out. also, i just arrived at school in denver, so my boat is 1000 miles away. its a 4 blade prop. i dont know what size it is though. i can get that info next week, when the boat is finished being looked at for prop problems. but i will get someone to check it out and get back to you. duane, so your saying that the the shallower the boat sits, the shorter it washes out? so if i put weight in it, i should be able to ride farther back? is this correct? they are going to check the tach also.

hmmm, im curious what your dealer had to say when you told him you were going 6 mph at 2700 rpms....or for that matter that you were riding at 4100 rpms. If the dealer heard that and didnt immediatly know something was wrong than maybe there is something way different about those boats than every other brand.

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i didnt know it was out of the ordinary for it to be running that high until i posted this. i havent called the dealer since. i think i prolly messed up the prop somewhere along the way, i remember hitting some shallow water. i dont think that the boat runs on a different rpm, that would be crazy for gas. thanks for all the info guys.