On my toe off 5 I tend to come in with my arms in a bit closer to my body than on a flat 5. I also feel as though I'm popping a bit more off of my front foot, and dip my rear shoulder to help get my body off axis. It should feel a bit more "tripped" around than a flat 5 does. While there is still a pull to initiate the rotation, as with any spin, this is one where your pop off the wake really helps with rotation of the spin without messing it up. Once you get them down you'll probably feel like they're a bit easier than a flat 5. Good luck, and let us know of any progress!
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