liquid- I didn't want to start that, but yes, yes they do. I personally think it looks bitchin and it makes it so much nicer for putting your board on. I bitched and bitched to Tige about the old V's sloped transom for that very reason. It's now being phased out. Good ideas are good ideas no matter where you find them or how they come about. It's called evolution. Maybe we should start a thread on evolution.