Sellers Beware

This is similar to an earlier post but my advertising is only on this site. We are being targeted! This email I recieved is for a houseboat share only.

Good day to you,
My name is Mr.DAN,i am an American based in London, My company is @#32 Tooting Bec Gdns London SW16 1RB London.We specialise in the purchase and shipping of BOAT, to our numerous customers worldwide. We have a customer interested in purchasing your boat.We will arrange a pick up of the boat once payment is confirmed by you. Please we will instruct the buyer to proceed with the payment procedures immediately, we agree on the price. State your last asking price.
Looking forward to hear from you.
Management
Mr. DAN.

Mr. Dan

Considering this guy is supposedly american.. and spending time in the UK.. hes not quite gotten the hang of the queens english!

Also no one writes theit address like that in the UK....

I got one from Mr Dan too, and it is exactly the same as yours. "We specialize in the purchase and shipping of BOAT." If that isn't a canned phrase... Just insert BOAT, CAR, HOUSE, or WIFE when applicable.

Look out for Philipe Brazil as well. I had some fun with that TOOL!

My advertising is here, on FlipSell, and in the Boat Trader; however, these people contacted me before it came out in the Boat Trader.

no way is that english !! i live in the uk
but that address is real in london

do a search on it on the internet and find out all the other scams operating from this address!!!!!!

Good day to you, My name is Mr.Xardel,i am an American based in London, My company
is @#32 Tooting Bec Gdns London SW16 1RB London.We specialise in

I'm Mario Troschke a German business man based in London,
and My company is located @ #32 Tooting Bec Gdns London.We specialise in

Good day to you, My name is Mr.Collins,i am an American
based in London, My company is @#32 Tooting Bec Gdns London SW16 1RB ...


the list go's on

(Message edited by djpurnell on November 06, 2004)

Hey, here's another. I thwarted one attempt on me and posted it here in this section.

I just got this e-mail this morning. I wanna f@@@ with this guy. So here is the letter with my response to it:



-------Original Message-------

From: fred cole
Date: Saturday, November 06, 2004 02:48:26
To: v.vschubert@verizon.net
Subject: Order on your boat Family Runabout Wakeboard Boat

Good day,
My name is Mr Fred,An American,We venture in buying and shipping of Automobiles to our numerous customers across the
globe,please we have a customer presently that is interested in buying your Boat.We will arrange a pick up of the boat once payment is confirmed by you.Please we will instruct the buyer to
proceed with the payment procedures immediately,once we agree on the price.State if it's still available and also your last
asking price. Looking forward to hear from you..
Management.

And my reply:

Good day to you Mr Fred.
We were so very excited to hear of interest in our boat. This boat is still available for sale and our final asking price is $14,900 as this boat is worth much more than that.
Thank you,
Mark


Isn't there a way to bust these guys?

houseboats in london?
-alex-

Mr.DANS reply after telling him the price:

Thanks for your mail my client said that I should inform you that payment will get to you in a cashier check in the amount of $21,000. The amount on the check will cover my commission and the shipping cost.So you are required to deduct cost of your BOAT $14,500 when payment gets to you,you will refund the balance of $6,500 to the agent who will come for the pick up.

I have made all arrangement with the agent to wire my commission to me as soon as he receives the wire transfer from you.Please I want you to understand that I am entrusting the balance in your hands.

After payment has reached you and balance sent back to the agent,he will come for the pick up and take it to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer,
while other necessary documents will be sent to my client via courier service .

Please Confirm this and provide NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER for check payment to be delivered to you via courier .

Regards,

Dan.

Be sure to tell Mr Dan after you receive his fake check that you intend to cash it and take the money to Las Vegas. I read that on a web page that someone posted. They got peeved. I was thinking of telling them after I get the check that they won't get any money back because I used the boat as collateral and need the extra money to pay off the bank.

i just got one from mr dan to i am going to mess with him. i here about this all the time

This is the third threat that Ive read here about this scam. Isnt there a way anyone can rip these clowns off, at least for the good of the boating people? I would love to hear of someone being able to cash this check and the crooks get nailed for it. Mark, this is #2 for you-go for it, yank their chain!!

My wife gets this all the time at her bank. she says that it's done on just about everything.
she says that whenever someone is trying to wire money they ask what they are wiring it for just to make sure their not getting taken by one of these scams.

My reply to him:
How will you pick this BOAT up? It is a 72' houseboat and I am only selling a one week share.

His reply back:
THANKS FOR YOUR PROMPT RESPONSE. THE PICKUP WILL BE DONE BY THE INTERNATIONAL AGENT WHO SPECILIZES ON SHIPPINGS ONCE EVERYTHING IS SETTLED.
CONFIRM THIS AND PROVIDE THE INFORMATION REQUIRED FOR THE PAYMENT TO BE DELIVERY IN YOUR NAME WITHOUT DELAY.

GENT WHO SPECILIZES INTERNATIONAL SHIPPINGS. THEY WILL COME OVER
REGARDS,

DAN.

How stupid are people?

They are pretty dumb. Anybody know who I can contact as far as authorities are concerned? Enough is enough. Here's my latest from "Mr Fred". Check it out, no greeting or signature...

Thanks for the mail.The $14,900, well accepted.However,you have to give us sometime to contact our client on phone,we have been trying his line for sometime now i believe is switched off, The amount in the check he deposited for the order is bigger than what should be paid to you, though it's meant for the total expenses which includes the purchase ,the pick up and the shipping bills. so we want to know if we shall carry on with that or if he will make arragement for another check ASAP. I will get back to you as soon as i conclude issues with him.Please get every thing ready as against pickup.
Best Regards,


I think I'll have him make the check out to "my agent".


(Message edited by grampawakerider on November 08, 2004)

I got the same email

this is the new e mail i just got.


i got your mail and really the pics is good and your price at $71,999.00 is well accepted. However,you have to give us sometime to contact our client on phone, we have been trying his line for sometime now i believe is switchedoff. The amount in the check he deposited for the order is bigger than what should be paid to you, though it's meant or the total expenses which includes the purchase , the pick up and the shipping bills. so we want to know if we shall carry on with that or if he will make arragement for another check ASAP. he is presently in Japan on a visit. i will get back to you as soon as i conclude issues with him.Please get back to us as soon as you recieve this.
Thanks and God bless,

DAN.

I got the same email this morning. Gotta love scams. This is the second scam.

Folks,
In all these scams are you all saying you never received a check from the guy? If I had received a check under one of these scams, I would immediately take it to my bank for deposit, making sure the bank understood I had doubts about its authenticity. At that point, if the check, in fact clears, I would proceed with the transaction. If it didn't clear, now it is a Federal crime and the bank will initiate a Federal investigation into the scam. At no point, however, would I send any money until the check sent to me was 100% cleared by the banks. Am I missing something in this scam????

I for one, ignore the emails. Someone on here usually posts them before I receive them, so I know what they are and can click delete. Too much work to actually play with them and see how far they will take it.

Yeah !! he sent me one too!! Geez I never/ rarely check the discussion sites here . thank the lord I stumbled onto this thread . It surely saved me a lot of aggravation and dissapointment at best. thank you for looking out for others, Peace

Wakeshoe,

The scam works by you getting a check for more than the sales price. Then you deposit that and they want you to then send them back the amount in excess of the sales price. Then the check bounces and they got your "real" cash and you're screwed w/ a bounced check.

Why you wouldn't even want to attempt this is if you try and cash the check and it bounces then you get nailed for a bounced check fee. Also..I wouldn't want to be anywhere near one of these guys and their schemes.

The new check process, "Check 21", will help eliminate this a bit also.....

Levi,
What I'm saying is if indeed the scam sends you a check, you take it to your bank for deposit and inform the bank that this may be a scam. I checked with my bank (one of the majors) and they indicated that as long as you inform them, they will not charge you with a bounced check. What they will do is not credit funds to your account until the check actually clears from the checkwriter's bank. I would never send them a cent until my bank let me know the funds were now in my account safely. However, if the check does prove to be a fraud, the bank will immediately file with the appropriate Federal agencies and a Federal investigation rolls into action. The quickest way to go after these scams is to get big business gunning for them!!

here is the latest e mail

Thanks for your mail my client said that I should inform you that payment will get to you in a cashier check in the amount of $80,000. The amount on the check will cover the AGENT payment who will be coming from CANADA for the supervision, my commission and the shipping cost.So you are required to deduct cost of your BOAT $72,000 when payment gets to you,you will refund the balance of $8,000 to the agent who will come for the pick up.

I have made all arrangement with the agent to wire my commission to me as soon as he receives the wire transfer from you.Please I want you to understand that I am entrusting the balance in your hands.

After payment has reached you and balance sent back to the agent,he will come for the pick up and take it to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer,
while other necessary documents will be sent to my client via courier service .

Please Confirm this and provide NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER for check payment to be delivered to you via courier .

Regards.

OK...INSIST that the only form of payment that you will receive is from Western Union. They (Western Union)INSIST that the payment is made in cash with verified funds before it is wired to you. When you tell "Mr. Dan" that this is the only form of payment that YOUR bank will receive...you will get no more response from the A@@hole.

My goal is to have them send me a check, then not return "their" portion. Give them one excuse after another, then tell them they wasted their time.