Tige RZ2 Owners? Help with weighting please

My buddy bought an 07' RZ2 the other day. We tried to weight it down last nite. 400 fly high v drive sack on either side in the back(i told him to stack the 350s on the top of the 400s but he didnt). A 350 on the floor in front of the rear seat (width-wise). A 350 on the floor in the bow, a 350 on top of it width-wise, and a 150 brick in front as well (we had this in back but moved it up front to help plane). 7 people in the back. So, 1150 in the back plus bodies and about 800 up front. The wake was not good. Oh yeah tried taps in every location 0 was the only setting we could get the wake to stop pealing over at 75ft. About 23.8 on the speedo. Any ideas? Thats only 2000lbs and it would barely plane out.

Need a new prop. $.02

The Acme 538 that comes standard is not meant for more weight than the optional ballast system that they install at the manufacturer. That is 900 lbs only.

if the wake was rolling over, it sounds like you had too much in the back. Move more weight up front, or people up front. That should help. And yeah, if you were having trouble getting on plane, you need a better prop or less weight.

Ops, it's the Acme 537 prop that you have... Dang numbers. Should be etched into the prop. Call Acme.

With the Tige's you have to weight them 70/30 or 60/40 (back/front)

(Message edited by dabell on July 10, 2008)

I've never been impressed with Tige wakes...you really have to load the crap out of them to even be respectable. I've had a good freind with the rz2....I won't even ride behind it anymore. I would rather ride behind a PS 190 with 1500lbs in it.

Typical of Tige, washy and finicky to small weight adjustments.

Here is what I run in mine.

400 fly high v drive sack on each side of the engine. Another 500lbs up front in the walkway and stock ballast of 900lbs. Total weight is about 2200. I have ran that with anywhere from 5-6 people in the boat and plane out fine. I start with the TAPS on 1 to plane out and haven't had a problem. That weight configuration works well for speeds in the range of 21-23+ and a line length out to 80ft. However I have the 360HP HT Marine Power engine, so that maybe part of the reason.

It sounds like you need more weight in the front and a better prop like everyone else has said.

Most Tiges do prefer to have some extra weight up front.

2,000 pounds plus 7 people is a lot of weight. That goes for at least 3,000 + pounds. A different prop may not help it to plane that much easier as well unless you have more than the 340 HP engine.

I am not sure what boat you are used to putting 4,000 pounds into for a decent wake, but you are working way too hard here.

Your skills may be formidable, but you don't need that much weight to get a terrific wake.

THis is my 24V (different hull I know) with only 1600 pounds and 2-3 people in the boat:
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/talltigeguy/10-24-07%20wakeboarding/PA240004.jpg

Does anyone know how much weight and what the distribution was that they have used at the tournaments that Tige hosts?

Sam, what does your comments do to help out Jarrod??? Just wondering because I just see that you are just trying to start an argument. $.02

Not to mention that's a horrible wake on the 24V haha. Yeah didnt Rusty just kill it at a contest pulled by Tige' he did not seem to depressed.

I'm with you David- Sam your insight into Tige's wakes is total BS. You have one friend with a relatively new Tige- probably still learning how to get it weighted right and that's your sum total of experience. Why do people like you even post anything? You're doing nothing to help the poster with their question- and from what you're bio reads- you don't even own a boat..hmm. I am certainly no expert, but I have owned a couple of boats and YES i have a Tige. I can tell straight up that out of the 100+ people that I have had in/behind my boat- NONE of them went away saying the wake sucks. I've also been behind a Prostar 190 and I think you'd be a little dissapointed unless you're a slalom skiier- in which case the boat rocks.

Now- on with the poster's question: I weight my 21v with 400 on either side of the engine and 600 in the walkway, Taps on 4 at 23mph and the wake is super solid, crip, with a great transition and boot. good luck

2007-2008 RZ2s want STOCK + v-drive sac in walkway pulled back alittle bit and the other v-drive sac against the back seat on the floor(widthwise). TAPS on 3-5 speed from 22.5-24mph. This set up is MONEY.

Sam, have another cup of HATERAIDE..... Naysayer.

Jarrod,

My friend Tim has a Tige and he has tap in one position when he starts and another when on plane. Maybe you the taps in the wrong position when starting and that is why it would not plane out... Where is Norton... Matt, how do weight your Tige???

Jarrod, just noticed where you are living. I live in Fair Oaks..

The dealership only put 340HP engine in all their ordered RZ2's. Probably the reason why Matt isn't having an issue is because he has a different engine.

Too lazy to read all the replies, but sounds like too much weight to me.

Try starting with less and get it perfected before adding more.

Remember...it's a Tige so it dont need ballast

if you need that much weight you should also be riding at a lot faster speed and 85 feet which would be clean

"I've never been impressed with Tige wakes...you really have to load the crap out of them to even be respectable. I've had a good friend with the rz2....I won't even ride behind it anymore. I would rather ride behind a PS 190 with 1500lbs in it.

Typical of Tige, washy and finicky to small weight adjustments."

So Sam,

How do you weight your boat? Or do you even have one?

I'll bet the real reason you wont ride behind your friends Tige is he wont invite your picky, whiny @$$ $.02

Your buddy bought the Yellow RZ2 didn't he???

Yes he bought the yellow one. Why? And he has the 340hp engine. Its just a big ole hull, it needs some weight to sink it. Thanks for all the suggestions folks, I will pass them on. He's getting the 'stock' ballast put in next week, then he'll play with extra bags more.

That was a sharp boat.... Who is doing the ballast install? Have him check tigeowners.com/forum before he puts one in. There are a lot of people doing ballast installs with their boats a very successful...

The dealer he bought it from in Rancho is doing it I'm pretty sure. Its like 1300lbs or something.

The service department and the boat dealer are good. They usually put the Rival system into the boats. Just watch out for the gate value that they put in.. Apparently they work for awhile and then go south.

http://www.tigeowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7439

(Message edited by dabell on July 10, 2008)

Then he will want to attend http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3320/587580.html?1215697099 if the dealer hasn't told him.

There is a $2500 Pimp-My-Tige prize.....

if you are running that much weight and that long of a line you will definitely want to be riding way faster.

our setup in our 24ve is 2000 lbs, 600 on each side of the engine, then 600 in sacks up front and 200 more in dumbells in the very tip. i ride about 24.5 at 75 ft. also i usually only ride with the taps about 4 - 6 that helps stop the curl a little bit.

Josh, have you reproped the boat????

well we had a massive wake they had probably 500+ in the back lockers and 2 750's going from the front towards the back and 3 ppl in the boat heres a pic
hes about 80ft back dont remember the speed

i've found that the RZ2's want a 50/50 weight distrabution. i run 600's in the rears and 1000lbs up front with taps at 4 and its a good wake. i can't wait to put my 09 on order.

"you really have to load the crap out of them to even be respectable."

You sir are 100% tool. Go back to beggin for rides and stay outta BIG BOY talk.

To answer the posters quiz, you have to many lbs. and a horrible spread at that-not trying to be disrepectful either. Less is more, should be your theme for the next outting. Try more lbs. in the bow and work your way back there. 7 people in the boat is already a grand just there, at least. Stack the bow (600/750), with that amount of riders, and make adjustments from there. Always start off smaller and build up, not stacked FAT and then tryin' to make it work. Tune down, and you'll get great results. Always take into account, the amount of riders, what they ate for lunch that day, the amount of fuel, etc, as you start tuning. It all matters in the grand scheme of poundage.
Good luck.

(Message edited by committed on July 11, 2008)

Here's your spread as you stated:
2150 (most likely more)rears
250 (center for fuel)
800 (bow)
Too much sac in azz. Don't forget, Tige's are fatboys right out of the box, so the lbs. work different in these rigs vrs. other hulls. Just detune and retune, and you'll be killin it.