I phone Audio Video+Charge Cable

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-08-2011, 4:34 PM

For some reason it's real hard to find a cable that will let a Ipod or I phone "Be Itself"
I mean come on! There is NO raido interface that works better or faster for getting threw your Ipod than the Ipod it self.

Companys what you to plug your Ipod or I phone into there device and they they want to Hyjack your device and render it usless FAIL FAIL FAIL:

I prayed to the Audio God's

I said
"Just let me plug in my device in and let me charge, (5-volts please) Give me the ability to send auido and video via RCA's to where ever I want and let's call it a day.

My prayers were answerd

http://www.davidnavone.com/

(brucemac) · (brucemac) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-08-2011, 5:00 PM

did you install it yet?

i used the isimple is75 all last year with my iphone. worked okay, but the darned thing is picking up the cell (3G) data noise through the usb connector at higher volumes on my 3GS. common power and ground directly back to the stereo batteries. it's not alternator wine either, it's clearly data noise. i'd replace it if i knew for sure this one didn't do the same. i was going to investigate it soon and see if i could fix it, but not sure what else to do.

(murphy_smith) · (murphy_smith) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-08-2011, 5:48 PM

Been doin it for quite a while grant....welcome to the party. Your unit looks like it is a one piece which is nice

IS76 with an IS712 from peripheral electronics. I can run a gen 1 ipod all the way to the Iphone 4

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-08-2011, 6:34 PM

Murphy: So your solution is getting a IS76 cable (that's a normal ipod 12v audio and video cable) then adding the 12v to 5v converter the IS712. so you now have a extra connection at the end of your music device.

Yea I ran that set up for about 5 mins and then I threw that POS IS712 in the lake. When you connect the IS712 to the IS76 you end up having a 4 1/2 inch long
connector attached to the bottom of your phone that works PERFICT as a leverage device to break off the docking port at the bottom of the phone. Yea I have been to that party.

The Alpine Headunit has a Ipod out that can charge a standby Ipod we all have I phones So I don't think I need the ability to charge a Ipod.

(murphy_smith) · (murphy_smith) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-08-2011, 6:40 PM

It didn't really bother me since I had my play list set up and read to go. So the Iphone never really got messed with enough for it to be a concern. But I def see your point.

How much is that cable you got.

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-08-2011, 6:50 PM

They are only $26. I have found you have to be very carefull when trying to dock using after market dock that you don't dammage your docking port.
That Re-volt 12 to 5 volt converter I said dosent quit line up like a Apple or Belkin or Monster. So just watch out

(arrydjay) · (arrydjay) **Join Date: Jul 2010** 02-08-2011, 8:19 PM

I've got a cable that goes from dock connector to the 3 RCA's and a USB. I'm pretty sure it charges whilst giving you audio and video. Probably wouldn't work too well unless your boat has a USB port....but then you could always get a 12v acc plug to USB adaptor.

(brucemac) · (brucemac) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-08-2011, 8:38 PM

murphy, you got any noise with the is76? i know i'm not alone as there are similar reviews online and as far as i can tell the only difference between the 75 and 76 is video. just curious if you're getting noise as well?

(brucemac) · (brucemac) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-08-2011, 8:41 PM

also help me out, why 5V, is that the iphone 4 voltage or something?

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-09-2011, 12:30 AM

USB=5 volts
i phone= 5 volts
i pod= 12 volts
i havent found a cable or dock that charges both iphone and i pod.
Imo you dont want a dock you want a cable. With a cable your able to navagate your device and still stay connected and playing. I dont like having to un dock the device and stop the music to adjust the device. Plus i can find a safe dry place to stash it much easyer when its attarched to a cable

(murphy_smith) · (murphy_smith) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-09-2011, 6:41 AM

No noise at all. I am running the connection at the bottom of the ipod into my Alpine CDA 9886. I have an alpine adapter that goes from AiNet to RCA.

I would never ever use the mini jack cable on the top of the ipod...IMO that connection is junk

(brucemac) · (brucemac) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-09-2011, 7:39 AM

interesting, i'll have to check mine out more closely tonight then, maybe i've got a bad adapter cable going into my 420.

i used to think the same thing about the headphone jack, until i read this article by the way:
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...surements.html

ironically, it was posted by shawndoggy right underneath one of your posts in another thread a while back. maybe you never read it.

anyway, thanks for the replies

(chucktronics) · (chucktronics) **Join Date: Nov 2007** 02-09-2011, 7:42 AM

wow, Two i-pods at once grant?.......... Charging up "

(shawndoggy) · (shawndoggy) **Join Date: Nov 2009** 02-09-2011, 7:42 AM

Grant, does that cable allow you to control volume on the ipod/iphone or is it a line out? Wondering whether adaptunes works with that cable...?

(chucktronics) · (chucktronics) **Join Date: Nov 2007** 02-09-2011, 7:52 AM

THRILLER !!!!!!!........JK

I usaully use the same meathod as Murphy . using the headphone "out" is not as desirable as the line level or having the headunit convert .

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-09-2011, 4:04 PM

Ryan: You silly, Alpine's B.S Full Speed conection that most Alpine deck's have provides a 12v out using a Alpine Ipod dock connection. Most Alpine decks come with it I dont use it to transmitt audio just to charge my old Ipod, My old orignal Ipod is got some Old House Sam Mo Fo cant get rid of the orignal Ipod so that where it rest's

I don't know of any dock's that plug into the bottom of the Ipod that allow you to adjust volume.
If you plug into the Headphone jack you can adjust the volume to what ever you like
When you plug into the bottom of a I-pod or I-phone it takes the ability to turn up or down the volume on your device. The ouput is set at 75% up when you plug into the bottom. From the factory the bottom is set right where you want it. I did some playing around with head phone VS Dock output and any higher than 75% the ipod's output start's breaking up.

(brucemac) · (brucemac) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-09-2011, 5:00 PM

i agree, i've never seen any ipod control/interface that is better than the ipod/iphone itself. if anybody's got any tips for trouble-shooting my is75 i'd greatly appreciate it. i'm really not sure why i've got noise, but it's definitely got to do with the power/ground because it's fine through the headphone jack. i checked this morning after my last post and i've got dedicated power and ground runs back to the common batteries, don't have any other power wires running near the connections and i replaced my rca to mini-jack adapter cable that links it to my 420 last summer trying to eliminate the noise issue. :idunno:

(murphy_smith) · (murphy_smith) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-09-2011, 5:08 PM

Come to think of it, Grant you are right about the no volume adjustment.

You have to be careful with the WS420 - if not tuned correctly you can introduce noise into your system

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-24-2011, 6:42 PM

Hey UPDATE on this Cable. I had trouble getting the Video to work. I sent the cables back to Navone for testing and sure enough there is / was /still is a soft wear conflict and the video is not working. "Navone" should have new updated cables soon. In the mean time Check out The IS76. I orderd 2 cable's the other day. ill let ya know how they work out. I should have tested the cable before I posted it here. I'm sorry if anyone orderd one and it dosen't work.

(murphy_smith) · (murphy_smith) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-24-2011, 7:39 PM

Will the IS 76 meet your charging needs.

It is a good cable

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-24-2011, 8:37 PM

The IS76 will charge in 5volt (Iphone) mode
I don't have the IS76 it's a PAC product so it should be pretty good.
The E-mail Reply I got from Navone has me wondering, He said the When the iPhone 3G OS jumped to 4.0.1, the software dumped the video out.
So that sounds like he is saying my Iphone has no video out????
Hummmmmm ?

(murphy_smith) · (murphy_smith) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-25-2011, 7:16 AM

My personal experience has been nothing but positive with that cable.

I agree with you on the concept of being able to control the ipod via the ipod. It is also nice that the volume is set at the ipod once you plug in the cable.

(jv210) · (jv210) **Join Date: Feb 2006** 02-25-2011, 9:26 AM

Grant, the other cable I bet could have worked. It's the software in the phone thats preventing the video to display correctly. I think you still may have the same problem with the new cable.

I got a jailbroken iphone which I installed a program called display out. It basically just tells the phone to display whatever is on the screen. I use cheap amazon rca cables with the apple plug to watch movies when I'm not at home, works great on anything I've tried.

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-25-2011, 12:31 PM

Is Display Out a Jail Break Phone only option?

(jv210) · (jv210) **Join Date: Feb 2006** 02-25-2011, 2:01 PM

Yes, it's a jailbreak only app. Apple sells a composite cable, which would make you believe you should be able to display video.

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-25-2011, 2:15 PM

Humm, Ryan said he has been using the IS76 with no problems. As fast as Apple changes the OS it wouldn't supprise me if you have to check each and every phone. I could see it working on some G3's and Not others

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-25-2011, 5:56 PM

I got the IS76 cables in. I tryed it and it work's fine. It cost $18 from Amazon and charges I phone and I pod.

I went by the Apple Store and like most Apple stuff you get raped. I payed almost $50 for a Apple Audio/Video/USB cable. Im thinking OK fine if it works great money well spent.
Here is the Kicker. When you plug in the APPLE brand cable the "This Accessorie is not supported " Screen pop's up. Forcing you you hit "NO" each and everytime you plug and un plug your Phone/Ipod. FAIL.

I wanted the Apple cable to some how work better, I love high end cables but IMO the cheaper $18 IS76 is a thinner more flexable cable with a docking End that seems to dock smoother than the Apple ???

Thanks to Ryan for the IS76 heads up.

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-25-2011, 6:00 PM

Another FYI not all videos will play Video Out from your Ipod/Iphone. The videos must have a encoded software to play on these unit's Example You Tube Videos and Net Flix OK not sure about any other videos.

(brucemac) · (brucemac) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-25-2011, 6:14 PM

lol

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-25-2011, 6:25 PM

Bruce: I was like what's he laughing about but then I guess you were thinking I was talking about XXX videos and sutch LOL, I had not though about that. I was making refferance to the other NetFlix style movie down loads like Hulu and Sling Box. But now that you mentioned it Im sure some one can or will try it out and report back. I can see it now. This cable is better than that cable cause you can watch PORN threw it LOL

(brucemac) · (brucemac) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-26-2011, 2:43 AM

not what i was laughing at, but now that you mention it: bow chica bow wow.

apple tv2 with xbmc, your iphone/ipad and airplay. problem solved.

(grant_west) · (grant_west) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 02-26-2011, 7:42 AM

Sorry Break that down for me what are you talking about.

(jv210) · (jv210) **Join Date: Feb 2006** 02-26-2011, 9:07 AM

Grant that's what apple does great, sell you something and then lockout the cool features.

This is why I haven't had a non jailbroken iphone for years, I do what I want with mine and they cant stop me.

(ian_ashton) · (ian_ashton) **Join Date: Jul 2008** 02-27-2011, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucemac

apple tv2 with xbmc, your iphone/ipad and airplay. problem solved.

I love my aTV2 and iPhone4 using AirPlay in my house, but I don't see how that's a logical suggestion for a boat...

(brucemac) · (brucemac) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 02-28-2011, 10:33 AM

yeah just razzin grant. wouldn't work without wifi anyway. grant please let us know if you have any noise issues with the is76.