I learned mine on the flats. Of the wake you’re going a bit more than 180 with the board, and the water isn’t as nice. The better you can ollie the easier it is. I couldn’t land one for a while then I got some good tech help (thanks to Mr.Byerly) and worked on my ollies for awhile. Once I had that down good, shuv-its were easier to land. Scott did one on “Snap” in the flats that I don’t even think the board got out of the water, but you better loose the fins.
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