the grand is a lot better than where u have probably have seen it... ill show u a picture when i get home, im at a friend's place (it gets up to 32 feet deep where i ski)
by the way i checked out your profile, and u ride on conestoga? my dad used to have a cottage there when he was a kid
...we went there when i was little for a week and thats pretty much where i learned how to ski