I found stale easiest when learning. It allows you to bend your knees a little and bring the board behind you if you're having trouble getting the grab. Once you got the grab solid you can poke the back leg to add some style. Indy is not terrible either, agree with Scooter that a quick look at your board helps you get the grab. I can usually find a stale grab w/ no look, but have to peek at the board to get indy on a backroll and tantrum. I've yet to get the nose, always feel like I'm pulling around to revert.
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