i slalom and wakeboard (dont even start hating on me for slalom, its just a needed change every once in a while) the 2001 slalom wake is by no means a 80s mc stars and stripes. its pretty hard but its def at the competition level. load that baby up with 1500 pounds and you pretty much have a 210 wake. ive compared the two and thats my opinion. as for whats wheighs more the 454 or the 351, i dont think it really makes that much of a difference, and the 351 has all the power i need. we actually went and rode without ballast this morning and it still had enough wake to play around on, its sooo cold i didnt really wanna risk wipin out and i just wanted the workout. my friend and i came in and we both agreed that we were pleased with how the morning had gone