Another school shooting

Or a student steals a gun from a teacher and uses it to shoot his ex-girlfriends new boyfriend in algebra class.

Im glad that Mr. Robert Duke Wayne has this all carefully planned out. So the teachers will conceal carry and the student wont know who is and who isnt? Do you remember high school? You are severely under estimating the students and over estimating the skills of these newly trained teachers. Veterans of police forces around the country make errors on a daily basis. What do the teacher unions think about arming their people. Im not 100% sure but my guess is this isnt in the current contract.

Originally Posted by 95sn

Or a student steals a gun from a teacher and uses it to shoot his ex-girlfriends new boyfriend in algebra class.

Im glad that Mr. Robert Duke Wayne has this all carefully planned out. So the teachers will conceal carry and the student wont know who is and who isnt? Do you remember high school? You are severely under estimating the students and over estimating the skills of these newly trained teachers. Veterans of police forces around the country make errors on a daily basis. What do the teacher unions think about arming their people. Im not 100% sure but my guess is this isnt in the current contract.

Not to mention, I am forced to carry (and pay for) a $2 million liability policy. How much is my premium going to increase if I decide to join the armed teacher's brigade?

Originally Posted by wake77

Not to mention, I am forced to carry (and pay for) a $2 million liability policy. How much is my premium going to increase if I decide to join the armed teacher's brigade?

Texas Law Shield protects me for 130 a year.

Originally Posted by cwb4me

Texas Law Shield protects me for 130 a year.

But you aren't tasked with the safety of 25 teenagers each class.

Originally Posted by wake77

But you aren't tasked with the safety of 25 teenagers each class.

That's if I display my weapon or use it. They will pay all my attorneys fees 24/7 no limits and no deductible . The also have a bail bond /expert witness option I believe is 35.00 more a year. They have a multi- state option for those who travel.

Originally Posted by cwb4me

That's if I display my weapon or use it. They will pay all my attorneys fees 24/7 no limits and no deductible . The also have a bail bond /expert witness option I believe is 35.00 more a year. They have a multi- state option for those who travel.

This is really interesting and I'm going to confess that I really had no idea that such a stand-alone liability policy existed.

Is this for ANY display or use of your firearm, or are there exclusions? Covers negligence, I'm assuming. What about willful misconduct/gross negligence (i.e. you "pull a gun" on someone and something bad ends up happening)? I'm assuming that there's probably an exclusion for use of the gun in the commission of a crime (which may include assault/battery)? Does it cover use of the firearm in course and scope of your employment?

Actually if you have a link to the policy document I'd be real interested in just reading that.

Back to the liability question tho, I think teachers would probably be shielded by sovereign immunity, but the scope of that shield is going to be a question of state law (i.e. likely to vary from state to state). And then there are the closer cases, like what happens when teach uses the gun while on an after school field trip with a school club? In course and scope of employment or not?

Originally Posted by 95sn

Or a student steals a gun from a teacher and uses it to shoot his ex-girlfriends new boyfriend in algebra class.

Im glad that Mr. Robert Duke Wayne has this all carefully planned out. So the teachers will conceal carry and the student wont know who is and who isnt? Do you remember high school? You are severely under estimating the students and over estimating the skills of these newly trained teachers. Veterans of police forces around the country make errors on a daily basis. What do the teacher unions think about arming their people. Im not 100% sure but my guess is this isnt in the current contract.

There are currently 18 states that allow teachers to conceal carry in school. Most need School Board approval , some just need the superintendent to approve.