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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-11-2011, 12:42 PM
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I am a goofy foot rider, so I ride on the darkside, I know centurion makes a reverse rotation model, but i have never seen a wave from one, and wondered how it did for the goof side rider?
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Join Date: May 2005
04-15-2011, 1:35 PM
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I guess no one else will answer. The goofy wake on the reverse rotation Enzo is very good. Similar to the regular side on the normal Enzo. The same issues for the off side on both models.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-15-2011, 1:51 PM
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ok so its just like the other side looks when you reverse it?
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Join Date: May 2005
04-15-2011, 1:58 PM
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Yes indeed. I have been told by owners of reverse rotation Enzo's that the off side is better than the off side of a regular Enzo. I have no real time experience.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-15-2011, 2:05 PM
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ok cool. is it still an option? I didn't see it on there website.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
04-15-2011, 2:13 PM
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ok cool. is it still an option? I didn't see it on there website.
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I believe it is still an option.
I have only seen video on centurioncrew.com. But from what I have seen, it looks exactly like a regular Enzo on the opposite side. There is actually an 09 Enzo 230 in TX for sale with the reverse prop rotation.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
04-15-2011, 2:15 PM
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Buy an avalanche or a typhoon! Great waves on both sides
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-15-2011, 2:25 PM
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ya heard avy has good waves
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Join Date: Sep 2008
04-15-2011, 3:39 PM
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Here is my avalanche. Great wave on both sides.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-15-2011, 3:58 PM
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How much weoght is in your avy?
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Join Date: Sep 2008
04-16-2011, 10:34 AM
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Lots. I have 2-1500 custom enzo type sacs. Then I have 150 on the swim deck in a small fat brick. I later put 100#lbs of lead in it. So 250. Then I fill the center ballast tank 250#. Then I fill the surf side bow sac which is 255. Plus some people and the wave is clean and beautiful. A bunch of people have done this mod to their boats now. It's harder to get as much weight in the newer avalanches because centurion moved the engine vents and takes up a bit of the locker space that on my boat is filled with sacs. So assume roughly 2250 or so mostly surf side without people weight. I also have a custom made wakeplate of my design, custom swim deck (doesn't interfere or touch the wave).
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-16-2011, 3:55 PM
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sounds like you got it perfected man! So the new avys you cant do your set up with then?
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Join Date: Sep 2008
04-17-2011, 3:24 PM
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You can, but the sac will be a little smaller. So the wave will not be as good.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
04-17-2011, 4:18 PM
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You can, but the sac will be a little smaller. So the wave will not be as good.
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I think my wave is quite nice The thing that makes duffy's a little nicer IMO, is not the fact that the sacs are a little bigger (you can always add weight), but he cut his swim deck down (which I wont do) and has a custom "mud flap" knocking down some of the spray.
With that said, a stock Avy with custom sacs has one of the nicest waves on both sides on the market. However, the one thing you can not appreciate about an Enzo wave unless you have ridden one is how heavy the wave is. The Enzo I have seen does not really have a taller/longer wave, it is just heavier. Which if you are a bigger guy, makes a big difference.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-17-2011, 6:14 PM
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by heaver do you mean more solid and more push?
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Join Date: Jul 2009
04-18-2011, 8:44 AM
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by heaver do you mean more solid and more push?
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yes. Not a big deal to me since I am not a big guy. But if you are over 220lbs, it is something to consider. With that said, I have guys riding my wave at 260lbs that have no problems. So I dont want you the Avy wave is soft, it just the Enzo wave does have more push.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-18-2011, 9:03 AM
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gotcha!
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Join Date: Sep 2008
04-18-2011, 10:17 AM
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We have a range of riders on my boat and all can surf it( I would guess 105-260) I don't expect guys that weight 260 to be getting airs or anything, but they can still rip! Your weight makes a huge difference with how much push the wave gives you.
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Join Date: Jun 2010
04-20-2011, 2:58 AM
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we have the reverse rotation enzo and somebody else on our lake has the regular enzo. The waves are pretty identical. Usually we only fill the enzo sack plus center and people weight. The wave is good enough for us with this setup. We don't like too much hassle with filling hundreds of fat sacks and having sacks inside the boat. We do have the switchblade also. I think without the switchblade you need more weight. Our regular side needs a lot more weight. With the enzo sack plus 9-10 poeple it is really good though.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-20-2011, 6:41 AM
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the switch blade is that anchor looking thing on the back?
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Join Date: May 2008
04-21-2011, 7:34 AM
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Enzo sac + Full SwitchBlade + 400# bow weight + 300# peeps @ 11.5mph via stargazer= a true 20ft pocket to play in. (add more weight for more fun)
Note: Surf-Right Enzo will look like this on the goofy side (see pics)
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Join Date: Sep 2008
04-21-2011, 8:29 AM
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Sick wave bud!
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Join Date: May 2008
04-21-2011, 8:32 AM
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Sick wave bud!
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Thanks dude!
Can't wait to see your new one Duffy.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
04-21-2011, 9:19 AM
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Should be one of the best!
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-22-2011, 6:26 AM
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how big is the switch blade? does it affect the wakeboard wake??
also what year enzo do you have?
what is the difference between the regular enzo and the new enzo plus??
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Join Date: Jul 2009
04-22-2011, 8:18 AM
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how big is the switch blade? does it affect the wakeboard wake??
also what year enzo do you have?
what is the difference between the regular enzo and the new enzo plus??
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Switch Blade: people either love or hate the switch blade. The SB functions like the Bu wedge (ie drags back of the boat down) but it does not "tuck up out of the way) completely when you are not using it. It impact the way the boat handles and just "hangs" there when towing, etc. The SB has the most impact on the Centurion Falcon. IMO, you dont need the blade on an Enzo. As a side note, you cant even buy the SB from Centurion anymore.
Enzo vs Enzo Plus:
Mainly, the Enzo plus comes comes with a redesigned bow (much bigger) and 1,000lbs pure vert ballast system that fills in 60 sec. In addition, you can add sacs on top of that. The late 2009 and 2010/2011 Enzo also come with PCM engine. In general, the hulls have not changed in a while.
Note: The 2010/2011 Enzo also come with Pro-Vision dash (flat screen)
I believe islander's in an 07 230. He has it dialed in!
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Join Date: Jul 2009
04-22-2011, 8:23 AM
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These Vids are from 2010 Enzo 240 without a SB
http://wake9.com/community/content.php?342-James-Walker
http://wake9.com/community/content.p...-Keenan-Flegel
Note: there is a 2010 World Wakesurf video that I cant seem to find. It shows a 2011 Enzo Plus (both regular and reverse) as well as the finals being pulled by a Avy.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-22-2011, 8:26 AM
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ok cool that helps a lot!
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Join Date: Jul 2009
04-22-2011, 8:49 AM
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ok cool that helps a lot!
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go to centurioncrew.com and you will get a lot more people provide input
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Join Date: May 2008
04-22-2011, 10:38 AM
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how big is the switch blade? does it affect the wakeboard wake??
also what year enzo do you have?
what is the difference between the regular enzo and the new enzo plus??
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Lakesurfer is correct on all accounts. You do not need the blade for a good Enzo wave, I use mine because it came with the boat. I do not tow with the blade on because it can do bad things to your expensive actuators.
Mine is a 2007 and I actually like the blade for wakeboarding.(not that I wakeboard much anymore)
Pic is full blade+400#'s of peeps at around 22mph. Even on both sides, no sacs and easy to reproduce.
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-22-2011, 11:20 AM
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thats super nice shape
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Join Date: Aug 2007
04-22-2011, 7:16 PM
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Just a note if you can't find a reverse enzo from the factory. We interviewed Warrick Bell last year and he mentioned he switched the transmission on his boat, and made it a reverse rotation. He also mentioned it wasn't that difficult or expensive, but probably best to ask him. I would link to his site, but seems to be down.
http://wake9.com/community/content.p...h-Warrick-Bell
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-23-2011, 8:09 AM
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interesteing! So it must be just some parts you can swap out maybe?
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Join Date: Sep 2008
04-23-2011, 9:59 AM
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I think it's the v-drive you swap but I am not sure. I changed mine for a different ratio on my avalanche and it only took like 3 hours.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
04-23-2011, 11:51 PM
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Dennis on your Enzo where do you put the 400# of bow weight? Do you use the bow sack or a 400# fly high sitting on the low side? Thanks
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Join Date: Apr 2010
04-24-2011, 9:53 AM
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I think when I'm ready to buy I have it narrowed down to enzo or rz2.. but man that is a huge pocket on that enzo..
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Join Date: May 2008
04-24-2011, 4:55 PM
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Dennis on your Enzo where do you put the 400# of bow weight? Do you use the bow sack or a 400# fly high sitting on the low side? Thanks
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I run a FlyHigh W711 (integrated bow sac) in the bow under the seats. It only fills to about 400#s due to running out of space.
http://www.fatsac.com/flyhigh/FATSACS.bifh
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Join Date: Mar 2005
04-24-2011, 11:53 PM
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Did you put check valves on the lines on the bow sack and are you using the factory fill system ie: manifold or did you go with the reversible pumps?
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Join Date: May 2008
04-25-2011, 7:52 AM
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Did you put check valves on the lines on the bow sack and are you using the factory fill system ie: manifold or did you go with the reversible pumps?
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I piggy backed the bow sac off of my Enzo sac pump(s). I use ball valves for isolating it.
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