I am looking to replace my runabout with a boat that can produce a better wake. My problem is that I boat at a private lake that only allows outboards and jet boats. Any ideas???

Seadoo/Bombardier, have a WB style boat thats a jet. Check out this link <a href="http://www.sea-doo.com/seadoo/web/jsp/main.jsp?Params=Y.CAEN.501.1&amp;newsid=805" target="_blank">http://www.sea-doo.com/seadoo/web/jsp/main.jsp?Params=Y.CAEN.501.1&amp;newsid=805</a> and also <a href="http://www.sea-doo.com/seadoo/web/jsp/main.jsp?Params=Y.US.501.0&amp;newsid=804" target="_blank">http://www.sea-doo.com/seadoo/web/jsp/main.jsp?Params=Y.US.501.0&amp;newsid=804</a>. <BR> <BR>Not sure about the straight line stability of one thats all... <BR> <BR>

I had a 1999 Four Winns 170 Horizon with a Johnson 115. I ran it with a 500 lb. fat sack in the locker with the rope attached to the built in ski pole. Not bad, really and pretty cheap. <BR> <BR>Two things I'd do if I kept it: <BR> <BR>1. Four blade prop - I've read these make a world of difference on an O/B <BR> <BR>2. About 250 - 400 lbs of lead in the bow in addition to the fat sacks - to add to the wake and reduce bow rise. <BR> <BR>Here's a link to one for sale: <BR> <BR><a href="http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/0/33060730.htm" target="_blank">http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/0/33060730.htm</a> <BR> <BR>Here's a pic of my wake at 65': <BR> <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/54193.jpg" alt="wake">

Wow, that wake looks great, clean a loooong way back.

Sanger has a tournement boat with an outboard. I think it is called a ZX something? That way you get a tourney boat hull with an outboard..

if im not mistaken centurion makes a 30ft I/O, sure who needs that big of a boat, but its an I/O <img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/clipart/wink.gif" border=0>

they should only allow inboards. save the fishies

say a mid 90s mastercraft BF200 can throw a nice wake. an '80s ski centurion barefoot warrior can as well, but it takes a lot of weight malibu flightcraft and sanger barefooter outboard are not worth considering....yes they are some of the best BF boats ever made, but they can't throw a wake worthwhile of your time. another option is a hydrodyne show ski style boat. i know the twin rigs can throw a pretty decent wake, esp with weight, although it is a super steep wake. <BR> <BR>good luck with your quest. are you on a dragboat lake or something?

Yamaha has a new jet boat with a tower,more reliable than Seadoo's but with the price of it you could buy a wakeboarding boat.

Thanks for all the input. <BR> <BR>I looked at the older Hydrodynes, haven't found one in good enough condition, also been looking for the older outboard Mastercraft barefoot, very rare. Right now I am considering a newer bowrider (Glastron, Sea Ray, Four Winns) with the idea of adding weight. The wake from BT's Four Winns is very encouraging. <BR> <BR>The lake is a small natural glacier lake that has been family owned as long as I can remember. With outboards and ,just recently, jetboats allowed, they keep down the amount of boats and size of the boats on the lake. <BR>

richard, <BR> <BR>i have a friend in WI that buys and sells the older hydrodynes as a hobby. if you want I could put you in touch with him, he might have some good leads to a decent one.

I agree with Tim on the mid 90's MC Barefoot. I knew a guy a few years back who owned one and I seem to remember it having a pretty nice wake, better than some of the direct-drives I had ridden at the time.

Richard, <BR> How much you looking to spend? I have a fish and ski for sale that is rigged with ballast (1100 LBS) and a joystick rollcage that does a pretty good wake (not the best out there, but pretty good) It is a 2001 Procraft 20' 6" with a Mercury 200 EFI with four blade SST prop. I have the original 3 blade SST prop also. Tandem trailer. See my profile pic, or my home page at <a href="http://www.geocities.com/cghargis/newboat.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/cghargis/newboat.html</a>

I am looking to keep the price below $14,000. <BR> <BR>Tim, I would be interested in getting in touch with your friend about the Hydrodynes. I live in northwestern PA.

You can't go wrong with an outboard mastercraft. Good wake, cheap and lots of room!

I have a 1995 SeaRay Ski Ray and love it. It's a great all around boat and for an outboard a respectable wakeboard boat. You can buy them well under your price range and still have some coin left over for tower, sacks, etc. I repowered mine with a new 200EFI and am still under your $14K point. <BR> <BR>This weekend I added an amp and sub and will be adding can speakers to the tower before the summer. <BR> <BR>These are kinda hard to find as are the MasterCraft PowerStar, which is the only other open bow, outboard ski boat I know of. <BR> <BR>Bill <BR><a href="http://www.MonsterTower.com" target="_blank">www.MonsterTower.com</a> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/65921/56465.jpg" alt="95 SeaRay Ski Ray">

richard, <BR> <BR>i will get ahold of my friend about the dynes, see what he has right now.

Thanks Tim <BR> <BR>I have seen ads for both the ski rays (great looking boats) and the barefoot mastercraft, but not anything within 750 miles. I might have to do some traveling this spring to land one of these boats. Last night I saw an ad for a 1991 barefoot mastercraft with a 225 hp Yamaha for $12,500, but it was in Vermont. Won't be able to test drive anything in the north for another month.

Are you the shoe bomber?

No, he is much better looking