I worked on them off and on for 2 days, as most people had told me prior its not a hard trick to do, it will do it for you if you do everything correctly. It's 100000% commitment you can't half step it. I learned the basic feel on a wakeskate whether right or wrong it prepared me for what was instore. I tried 2 with my wakeboard and FAILED lol, I went out the back on the first and the second I didnt get the board back under me all the way and cuaght my edge. Neither falls hurt to bad , Looking at the boat is key, both attempts I looked away and paid the price. Good luck
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