New Nautique Model (G23) Thread
Well, I made one of the biggest screw-ups I've made since starting WakeWorld when I accidentally deleted the "New Nautique Model Coming Out?" thread, which had a ton of great information, photos and more than 30,000 views. In an effort to re-create some of the more important posts from that thread, I'm relying on the email notifications I received that haven't been deleted from my Deleted folder. If you have something to add or have some old notifications that I'm missing, feel free to add them to the thread. I know we can't bring it back in all it's glory, but hopefully we can get the important stuff back for everybody's reference.
I just want to apologize to everybody that contributed to and viewed the thread. I'm really sorry!!! |
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^^^ That wasn't really necessary, but funny! :)
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1. Game Changer
2. 107,000 MSRP 3. Mackin Wake 4. Most of us will never own one 5. Pulled the Wake Games this year 6. Blew up a transmission 7. For the first time 2 riders landed 1080s in a comp. If I missed anything feel free to add to it. lol Joking aside, it is a nice boat. |
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The night of the unveiling of this boat I put up this photo gallery: http://www.wakeworld.com/news/featur...unveiling.html
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David pm me maybe I can help you restore the whole thread.
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Some pics from my day at Shaun Murray's Boarding School the day before they showed it off to the rest ofo the media...
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Of course, I have to put this pic back up of me riding behind the G23 at Murray's camp... :)
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That's all the posts I salvaged from the original thread. Obviously, it's incomplete. I'm especially bummed because I didn't have Shaun Murray's post where he complimented my riding! :) If you have something that you think should be added, forward it to me. If you asked a question in the original thread and it didn't get posted above, ask it again. Sorry for the mess folks!!
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that thing sits super high on the trailer above the fenders, but i guess it has to be huh. if its 102" at the width of the boat, if you go like 6" out to allow the boat to sit down further, then you would have to two this thing with an oversized load flag on either side and have a permit just to tow it!
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David, Mr. Williams, I think it is really cool and conscientious for you to have tried to revive the thread. It's a testament to how you run this web site.
I had a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot to say in this thread and it's stinky that it is gone but I for one don't blame you and I think its awesome that you even did what you already did. Surprised that Google archive didn't pick it up. It was online for awhile and was getting picked up in organic search results on Google. Thanks for trying. Sorry that it happened. Best, Truth |
I asked a rider from wake games what they thought aboutthe G23. They said it was a nice wake, but no game changer. Said it's the best Nautique wake ever though.
Thing seems awfully heavy......it better throw a good wake! |
Who was the rider? What boat did they think put out a better wake?
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Seriously, where in that post does it say the rider claimed a different boat had a better wake? The rider said it wasn't the game changer Nautique has billed it as, period. Have you rode behind a G23 yet? |
I'm sorry Dave but its just not the same. Kinda miss scrolling through 6 pages of comments
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I didn't ask the rider what wakes were better, no need to I didn't ask him to bash the G23. I asked for his opinion. Everyone has different preferences in a wake.
I own a Moomba LSV so my opinion probably shouldn't count.......And it throws out a fine wake. No game changer but also not 100k |
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The term Game Changer is not mine. It came from Shaun Murray . Do you want to question his qualifications to make such a judgement? The unknown person thinks its the best Nautique wake ever . As compared to what ? Is he saying that Nautique has the best wake? Is he saying that its the best wake for a Nautique but still not as good as a ? Some of you are so eager to bash this boat you will take any opportunity to throw a stone even if its at me . Show me the facts otherwise the opinion means nothing and your backing means even less. Matt quote Have you rode behind a G23 yet? My dealer will get one next month I will test it then. |
I must admit to chuckling as I follow yet another mhunter/nautique soap opera. One gets deleted, and without missing a beat another one pops up. Only 29,000 views to go! I have no doubt we'll get there.
But I am curious about something... who's more upset about the original thread getting deleted... Nautique or mhunter? We should do a poll. |
Wow mhunter....
In direct reply to your comments Shaun Murray is paid by nautique, his comments, while enthusiastic and well respected are going to be biased. That doesn't mean they're wrong but there's gonna be bias Some of us with connections don't necessarily want to share. Maybe he's protecting the rides anonymity out of respect. A lot of riders dislike the nautique wake because of how narrow and steep it is, so if that's changed then yes it makes sense that this would be considered they're best wake ever. Oh wait sorry do I need I name my connections to be correct? Too damn bad. I have respect for their opinions. Don't be so butt hurt about this, do you even own one? |
.'' Maybe he's protecting the rides anonymity out of respect.'' Or maybe they dont exist?
All I hear out of most of you is blah blah blah, cry cry cry ,I think , someone said , hate hate hate . Let me know when you get some facts. Don't be so butt hurt about this, do you even own one? Own what? DBC good to hear from you again how is that BU doing? |
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Why would I tell you his name? I asked said rider as a friend. He gave me his opinion and I accept it. He didn't bash the boat? Where is the problem in my post? I said it's heavy it better throw a good wake not him. MHunter put your man panties on and accept the fact others might not think the G23 is the "Holy Grail" And I hope your dealer lets you get that set behind the G23, I think that would make you very happy. Sorry Dave......I've been missing Babygirl but SpringRide is next weekend! Lol |
Dude watch the wakegames video of Harley phil and bob and tell me that isn't the biggest competition wake you have seen. They are falling out of mobe 7s 3 feet off the water!!! One of my good friends rode it at wakegames as well and said it was the best he's ever hit also not as steep as nautiques have historically been
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MHunter put your man panties on and accept the fact others might not think the G23 is the "Holy Grail"
And I hope your dealer lets you get that set behind the G23. I hope you get to ride behind a G23 also . Once you actuality ride it you think the mystery rider is wrong. |
Own what? You better have a g23 on order with the amount of fighting you're doing about it because again, you're getting pretty butt hurt whenever anyone makes a comment that might be able to be interpreted as negative...
You're arguing about a boat you haven't ridden behind, the riders usually have pretty good opinions, if the rider thinks the wake is only as good as a super heavy x star that's his opinion you don't have to accept it but you don't have to blast him. |
I'd say it throws a good d-up!!! he almost over rotates this too! quit cryin and go wakeboard!
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For the price tag, I hope the wake's better than what I can get out of an A22 with 4k in ballast in it...
I can't wait to ride behind one so I can see what all the fuss is about! |
''if the rider thinks the wake is only as good as a super heavy x star that's his opinion you don't have to accept it but you don't have to blast him. ''
Is that what the mystery rider said? Blast him? I only asked who he was and what credentials he has . If the comment is coming from a 13 year old Jr it doesn't have the same impact as a seasoned professional. No I dont have a G23 on order nor am I planning on getting one . As I have already stated in the deleted thread the G23 is not my cup of tea . My opinions are based on the statements of the Pro riders , Professional publications , News media and the reputation of Correct Craft for ground breaking introductions to the tow boat industry. Maybe that doesn't stack up to the opinion of an unknown rider for you. But its plenty good enough for me. Lets face it guys the G23 is the best in its class and no matter how many insults and negative comments you try to come up with nothing has changed that fact. |
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We're all excited about the boat, but you really just look like an idiot with your fanboy bull****. |
Ill have a new z3/f24/ completely decked out a22 and a new loaded ecoboost before one of these for that cash
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How much weight does the credentials of a Nautique fanboy carry?
Your opinions? You have no opinion, you are a talking puppet for your favorite brand. Insults and negative comments? Where? You are a god damn fool. Have you ridden behind the boat? Matt These quotes are from the last two posts and two of them are yours? No insults there . Name calling is the last efforts of a loosing argument. Instead of slandering me why dont you all tell me how YOU feel about the G23? |
This thread needs to die. Game changer, no way. A game changer is a boat with an awesome wake at a great price with a great warranty to boot. Behind the boat riding will die out if manufactures took this turn in production. I will love to see what the pros can do behind it but that's it. End thread.
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''Ill have a new z3/f24/ completely decked out a22 and a new loaded ecoboost before one of these for that cash ''
Well good for you make sure you post pics when you get them |
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The way you act, I've got to wonder if you're some silly teenage kid, because no rational adult would make the arguments and claims that you have made. |
If a boat is released and riders land tricks they have never landed before on that boat...it's a game changer. Price should not play into it.
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I agree with the above statement, a game changer in action sports is something that facilitates progression in the sport. Price does not factor into facilitating progression because progression will be pushed by those who have the means and ability to do so.
It's like saying the pro snowboarders with the ability to take helis into the backcountry and throw triple corks into deep pow isin't a game changing scenario, because helis and backcountry locations aren't readily available to the rest of us, therefore it doesn't count. |
i agree, its like shawn white shouldn't be able to compete in superpipe because he owns his own super pipe!
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Tower=game changer Ballast systems=game changer G23 = maybe the sickest production boat made, but not a game changer! |
Agreed, progression is the key.
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Perhaps you should look at your own posts. Realize that if people are likening them to teenage rationale, at close to three times that age you might be in the wrong here. |
Hmmm, I don't know if I completely agree with the price is not a factor argument. One one level, I agree that innovation goes hand in hand with increased r&d costs. I agree that, putting cost aside, if a new boat is produced that really and truly produces a bigger and better wake, which allows riders to land tricks that they simply cannot land behind other boats, then that is great. If the G23 does that, then awesome. Color me impressed - no sarcasm here.
Ok, that being said, answer me this: If the only people that ever get to ride behind a g23 are pros, a finite amount of riders at select wakeboard camps, the very small% of people who can afford a G23, and riders at the few touranments that will be pulled by a G23, what real impact will the G23 have on our beloved sport? I guess I'm in the minority here, but whether Rusty, Shane, Harley, etc. lands a whirly7 or a whirly 10 in competition doesn't really matter all that much to me. Does it matter some? Sure, it's just one more thing I'll never do, nor will any of my friends ever do, behind a boat. To me, what would really help our sport would be for more companies to produce a budget friendliesh 21-22 ft wakeboat that actually produces a killer wake out of the box. That way, more every day joes would have exposure to a pro-level wake and would bring up the overall skill level of riders across the board. Just some thoughts. Not saying I'm right. I'm just flabbergasted at how expensive everything's getting, and how we continue to justify it. |
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We need more boats like axis.
i love the axis line, the only axe i have to grind there is that they're prices have gone up amazing amounts in the short time they've been around. the axis at 39.999 was a game changer, we need more boats that offer big performance at little cost. this boat is a game changer because it allows the pros to progress not because it allows more joe shmoes to get into the sport or progress their own riding |
I will probably never ride behind one. But you never know I also never thought I would own a Moomba.
The G23 is a big boat with a big wake and a big price tag it sounds like. I bet it still needs more weight to dial the wake. But then again all boats do. MHunter...........I just dont know what to think about you? Spring has sprung........lets just ride and have fun! |
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I meant insults and negative comments about the boat; stop posting ridiculously biased comments and nothing more will be directed at you. In my eyes, talking puppet and fanboy are factual descriptions. So what are your negative comments ABOUT the boat other than the price? Its no secret that I am bias just like most of you maybe your time would be better spent telling me about your boat of choice? Your opinion of me is meaningless I dont even know you and will most likely never meet you . If you dont like what I post then just stop reading them ? |
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Bill Yeargin: It has been interesting to see how people who were not involved in the development of the boat have viewed the wake since the G23 introduction. One respected industry wake boarder told me he would be afraid to have more than factory ballast in the boat. Another indication of the wake is how the G23 is being used in this weekend’s Nautique Wake Games. We are using factory ballast for all the competitors except Pro Men. Even the Pro Ladies will be competing with factory ballast. Finally, you have probably noted that the magazine reviews written so far on the boat mention how amazing the wake is with just factory ballast. Don't think about me take your own advice and have fun with whatever boat you have. |
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Second, there aren't a whole lot of negative comments about the boat, that's what multiple people are trying to get you to realize. You are on this defense for no reason. Finally, I find great amusement in the fact that you claim people's opinion of you is meaningless, yet you go to great lengths to "defend" your favorite boat brand against anything close to a negative statement made about it. Truly bizarre... |
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Ok, that being said, answer me this: If the only people that ever get to ride behind a g23 are pros, a finite amount of riders at select wakeboard camps, the very small% of people who can afford a G23, and riders at the few touranments that will be pulled by a G23, what real impact will the G23 have on our beloved sport? I guess I'm in the minority here, but whether Rusty, Shane, Harley, etc. lands a whirly7 or a whirly 10 in competition doesn't really matter all that much to me. Does it matter some? Sure, it's just one more thing I'll never do, nor will any of my friends ever do, behind a boat. To me, what would really help our sport would be for more companies to produce a budget friendliesh 21-22 ft wakeboat that actually produces a killer wake out of the box. That way, more every day joes would have exposure to a pro-level wake and would bring up the overall skill level of riders across the board. Isn't that what the Axis ,Moomba , MB and others are for ? You are right the G23 wont be for everyone and most will never even get to ride in one . Isnt that the same for anything at the top of its game? I have never been in a Bugatti Veyron or F22 Raptor but that doesn't take away from the fact they are the best in their class to date. Maybe someday there will be a better wake boat that the G23 . When that day comes it will not be for the masses and wont be sold cheap. |
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THE NEW GAME CHANGER!
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The thread with all those hits gone? Hey Dave, who are you gonna fire!
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^^^^ Ok, I'm calling shopped. :D
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If there is no negative comments about the boat than what are we talking about? If you want to state negative comments then all I ask is to base them in FACT. If you are going to state opinion than at least give some background on your experience or expertize on the subject . |
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Why dont you try to read the post before you answer it . That will correct these kind of misunderstandings? |
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mhunter can quote a no name pro rider, but nobody else can? Just want to make sure I understand your rules, bro. |
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