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My dealer just quoted me $59K for nicely equipped (not crazy loaded). He told me they have some on order already and they should have them by September. My personal limit was $50K so I got excited. I guess I will never own a new boat.:( |
I had a quote on an Axis A22 decently optioned (tricked out gel and trailer, surfgate, swivel racks and some other options for almost 72k MSRP before taxes. One dealer was firm at MSRP, the other hasnt gotten back to me with an actual price yet. I was hoping to be around 64k out the door :(
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Is that a surfgate? |
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wow it kinda sucks if that IS the axis surfgate because that wave is nothing to brag on.
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Why? Because the pic wasn't taken all low to make the wave look huge? That's a 8ft surfboard. Looks like a long wave to me.
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That is definitely not SG. That is a 12 or 13 platform. With that being said I agree with Chase. It's funny how some people take pics at certain angles to create an illusion as to how big their surf wakes are and this angle is not very flattering, but still looks pretty good.
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It's going to be pretty hard for them to get to that price on a 14' that is equipped as you have described. |
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I heard power wedge for axis as well....
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I also heard there was no RETROFIT for SG.....but that is hearsay. |
why would they let you retro-fit sg on an axis but not the more expensive malibu boats...makes no sense to me
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Fyi - I may live near all the manufacturers, i refuse to take pictures of the new products I see. It isnt my business to post pics, however, i dont mind talking about new products.
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I've heard a rumor about some big news coming from Nautique tomorrow. Don't have any details, just something coming down the line.
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There is a new 210 and 230 up on the nautique website.
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That 210 color way ruined it for me.
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http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...ition-2013.png Also, nobody with access to a 2014 Axis with surfgate (if such a thing were to even exist) would be riding it with an 8 foot longboard, because that would be stupid. |
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Mmmmmmmmmmm new nautiques are fireeeeeee
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Oh SG exists for the 2014 Axis. Anyone who has enquired seriously about buying one knows that. As far as any other changes I have no clue.
Malibu is holding out till last minute on all their stuff I see!!!!! |
2014 210 and 230 are on Nautique's website now.
http://www.nautique.com/models/2014-...-nautique-210/ http://www.nautique.com/models/2014-...-nautique-230/ |
That 210 looks nice and functional....but, they really couldn't have come up with a worse color combo at launch...:eek:
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My main point was that the photo above was definitely NOT a boat with Surfgate. |
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Am I the only one that thinks the nautique towers are awful???
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^^yup - FX4210
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You know what I got... ;) |
Love the new nautiques. I dont see how they are shooting for malibu price point though. It seem like a clear upgrade from the previous gen. How are they going to cut the price?
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That bimini on the 210 looks really weird
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I can't believe they did away with the reversible rear seat.
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Is it just me or is the new nautique graphic very malibuesque? Still looks good though
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wasn't it rumored that they would take away 210 features in order to drop the price and the G21 would come into the lineup to be the high-end wake boat?
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I bet that 210 would look good in grey with a black hull.
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I wonder what the price is now, and how this will effect 08-13 resale considering those boats have more equipment. |
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Where is the price drop?
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For my education, would someone explain what features are not in the 14 nautique that were in previous models. Is it just the rear seat? Thx
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Nautique basically did a favor to the existing users keeping the value of their boats alive... |
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http://www.planetnautique.com/vb3/sh...817#post209817 |
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It might help, but in the past it has hurt. |
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The 210/230 MSRPs for 2014 are the same as they were in 2013. I guess in Nautique's world this is a price drop considering they go usually up 3%-5% every year.
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Prospective Buyer - "Oh you have the 210? Isn't that the cheap model?" Seller (you) - "Umm, nah, mine is a 2012 model. Back when it was the best one. It's better.:banghead:" Prospective Buyer - "Well, I can get a new one for (insert price here). Why would I pay so much for your old one?" |
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I'm a Nautique guy, but even I can't sprinkle sugar on top of that bs... Maybe dumbing down the 210 a bit won't hurt resale (again when the X2 became the X1 with less polish, it did), but the G21 certainly will drive used 210 prices down. |
If you have a wakeboard boat (especially a 210) now then basically the "upgrade" path is to a g21 or g23. Cause, the perception is going to be that a 2014 210 is less of a boat then the old ones.
If you don't have a wakeboard boat now then you can shop for either a new 210 or a g21 or whatever else you can afford. So that kind of makes sense to me. I guess. :confused: |
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So lets say I paid mid 70's for my 2012. If the majority of people see the 14' as a step back in innovation it will be a relatively easy deal to make. This doesn't mean I will get more than I paid for my 12' but I hope the value isn't going to nosedive ... More like this: Prospective Buyer - "Oh you have the 210? Isn't that the 21' model?" Seller (you) - "Umm, yah, mine is a 2012. Back when it was the best one. It's better than the 2014." Prospective Buyer - "Well, I can get a new one for (insert price here). Why would I pay so much for your old one?" Seller (you) "mine is for sale at (insert price of new one minus 5-10k) and it has a superior seating layout, throws the exact same wake, and has the same options. Plus it doesn't look like a Malibu ... (Not that malibus look bad, I think they are sexy, I just don't like that nautique obviously ripped off their design language) |
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If nothing, they will keep values the same, for a long time... Look at the old SAN and Xstar/2/1 and first pickle X. You could have bought a 2002 SAN TE in like 2006 for 24-26... guess what they cost now... I have a buddy who picked up a used 04 X2 a few yrs ago for 35 (he stole it), bet its worth near the same now 30-35. Its all red ext, every option... What exactly about this new model is an upgrade over the past generation top deck? Anybody? |
Hey Delta, if you're asking about the difference between the new 210 versus the old (14 vs 13) there are quite a few changes. Most importantly the ballast system has been completely revamped and factory ballast is now about 1100lbs instead of the old 900. You can also get it from the factory with a pro ballast system that adds another 800lbs. It looks good too because they put trays over the pro system so you still have some storage and don't just see bags laying around. They also added a walk thru transom and fine tuned some other areas. The hull is slightly different as well and I think this boat will really impress some people. Of course it's not for everyone and to each his own, but I'm pretty excited to see how it will perform with the new ballast, hull, and add surf system.
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I have a 2012 210. I do not think the new boat will significantly affect the value of mine either direction. Mine is going to depreciate no matter what, and a '14 is going to cost more - everything else being equal.
Plus, the "I want to have the latest and greatest" phenomenon is going to apply. |
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^^ Yes, That white/black SC450 is damn nice looking boat.
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The white and black one is the one I got to see a couple weeks ago. It is a great looking boat.
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Here is a full article on the new Supra with the video...http://supraboats.blogspot.com/2013/...oat-smoke.html
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Not sure if this was shown or mentioned anywhere. All the G23s at WWA Nationals had this factory FAE. Thought it was pretty interesting.
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^^^That There is A Much Cleaner Version Of The Fae. I'll Call My Nautique Dealer Bud And Ask If That's A New Option
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What is factory ballast on the a24?
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http://www.alliancewake.com/wake/201...ith-surf-gate/ |
1000 pounds stock ballast
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