You'll see it pulling the PWT. Production models will be out soon after I would think.
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itll be back, new and improved too. theyre changing some things about the boat that received negative feedback at launch
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i saw some pics of the improved version, they made a bit of changes
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Did they get rid of the J-lo bootie?
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What it so bad about introducing a new boat to the public, getting their feedback before production and incorporating some of what the public wanted into the new boat? Is the problem that it took so long? How many of those complaining about it are actually waiting for their new Xstar to arrive? And also introducing it on the water for the first time at the first stop of the MC PWT? Seems like good marketing. Didn't someone else have their new boat on the water for the public for the first time at thier first comp of the year?
A couple weeks from now when it shows at the PWT will be interesting. I bet MC is hoping for a 1080 too :) |
Or a 12 :D
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If I shared what changed it would ruin the surprise! And yes as far as I know it still has child bearing hips. My sources claim mostly interior adjustments to aid in ergonomics
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I'm my eyes the first star was released as a "concept" boat, they took the time to go back and adjust things to make the boat more practical I believe. Im not an MC fan but props to them for taking the time and effort to get things right straight off the bat. TIGE did something similar with the z3 and the commitment shows. I'm hoping for the same type of thing here.
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I thought MC took orders at the boat shows ?
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Yes! MHunter!
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I heard some of the people who had deposits on the G23 asked their dealers for their money back when they heard the Star was confirmed for July.
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I heard the rope storage area on the tower of the G23 is Martha's Stewart's storage and organization game changer of the year. |
I rode behind the New X Star a week or two ago, While I can't say much, my complete unbias opinion is this.
The wake was absolutly HUGE, but there are a few kinks that need to be worked out. I will leave it at that. |
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I saw it on ft. loudon last weekend, but could only get a pic of it from a distance, I cropped it down to where it was somewhat viewable (though still tiny). I think it was the same one from Surf but with different graphics, it had the same bright orange interior.
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I don't see the power tower
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Looks like Travis is getting it dialed in for next weeks tourney |
all that room and you still see fatsacs on the floor? i mean even if you are adding "...." amount of weight over stock you'd think they'd be able to hid it...especially in a boat that expensive. that goes for the g23 as well.
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I think the sac you see would be hidden if the seat was flipped the other way.
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I guess it doesn't matter anyway, the boat could weigh 10k, you could have another 8k of hidden ballast and they are probably going to still put the biggest sac they can find in the bow and the walkway with more in the back just because they can haha.
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I didn't like it at first, but i kind of like the orange interior ...its growing on me (not quite as bad as the mullet, but what are you gonna do)... other than it being very halloween-y...it looks good... maybe they should have done white and orange?
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Ballast bags sitting all over the floor. Boards on the floor too.
I love MasterCraft (peep my post history if you don't believe me) but when it comes to marketing for this boat - - THEY ARE BLOWING IIIIT..... |
Keep in mind that all that ballast on the floor is for the PWT and Harley or Rusty. No matter what, you will never be able to hide 7000lbs of ballast.
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OK, like no MATTER what boat is made the pro's aren't going to add Ballast, and if they CAN add 7k they will. They are the best in the world. They added weight to the G23 too. Here is a quick peek at the new star. Looks SICK to me.
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If I remember the G23 only took [ 2800 + 1400 ] 4200 and that was only because they didnt have enough people on board.
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i am thinking we should have a X Star / G23 tug of war or something soon to see who is on top.:D:D:D
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They would have probably put more weight in the G23 if it was at a bigger location and wasn't worried about blowing transmissions more than it did.
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That green interior is fugly.
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I know that I won't be buying a new MC BU CC anytime soon but I must say that interior is one of the ugliest things I have seen on a boat. I mean really a $100K boat and you put a fast and the furious interior in it? What happened to class and styling?
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I just saw this boat on Tellico about an hour ago. All black on the outside with that green interior.....I definitely questioned their taste with that color choice for the interior.
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Come people these promo boat are made to make people stop and look. Basic average colors won't get that wow factor.
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I cant imagine that green or orange being very easy to keep clean, and when it gets dirty it will be even uglier IMO
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+1. This boat turns heads and gets a ton of attention... AND it does not make me want to throw up, in fact, I could see it in my driveway someday <<< like in 20 years when I can afford a 2013 G23 :(
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Well if your only going to build 2 in 2 years u better make them memorable.
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Looks like the hulk had a massive case of diarrhea and shat all over the new x-star.
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Personally, I find the interior kind of cool looking on both boats.
You can see that that took out the head rests that everyone hated that broke up the sunpad. But... you can also tell this isin't a production level boat, since all te cushions aren't in alignment as would be expected of a production boat. |
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im sorry but 100% black with bright green x star written on the side will look sick... not good for long term no, never would buy, but it will look dope
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I bet it looks like an avocado.
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Is it really green or just a bad picture of the orange?
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Someone said they saw it on the water in TN w/ green interior. The orange interior boat would be with Travis right now, different boat.
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Why would you choose baby puke green as an interior color? Good one MC. The orange at least was bearable.
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I color corrected it to take the blue tint out of it, this is what I would expect it to look like. |
Maybe the green interior is made of recycled material or better yet its a Green Boat implying it uses less than 20 gal. an hour. Hope it has a diesel motor
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I see a stray from the norm and all the MC haters come out. I think the green looks great, different and a real eye catcher. I wouldn't likely own it but I think as a show boat it's awesome.
If it had been plain white people would have complained about that too. Of course the guy who works for Nautique has to post ANOTHER pic of the G23 in a MC thread. Hey MH, we have seen the boat no need to post the hundredth pic of it. I get the feeling the new Star has you feeling the need to defend the G23 again and menion how much better you think it is. Can you get any other colored top decks on the G23 or just white? |
One revolutionary new feature of the new xstar is that with the orange interior, every cushion doubles as a type II life preserver. Its even color correct, safety orange. Mastercraft....... Savin Lives. Who knew that with their past xstar lawsuit they would come up with this game changing feature. lol
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Anyne else notice the power tower isn't on the green boat? Thats the new rounded/curvy ZFT-4.
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The new Star has 2800 lbs of ballast (like the G23) and weighs 1k more then the last Star. But all that means to pro's is now they can add even more weight to the boats for even bigger wakes. It's really the best way to add new and bigger tricks.... bigger wakes. In the end if we want bigger wakes, it takes more weight, bigger motors and more gas.
And I'm pretty sure they "took the boat serious", they just wanted to do a unique interior. I guess they weren't targetting it to MH, which was probably a big mistake. By the way Michael Hunter, what color top deck did you order on your $130k G23? Oh wait, they only come in white just like all Nautiques. |
Can't wait to see the Platinum, Black and Orange or Platinum, Black and Green interior, similar to the 2011 Parks XStar
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Im not a MC guy...hell the only ones Ive ever ridden behind was a '11 Xstar w/ the 7.4 in it & a '11 X45 but I actually like the bold & bright orange interior. Of course you guys will have a choice of regular colors but this is their promo boat. Anyone remember the color of the xstar that was presented at surf expo last yr?? Of course you do...bc it was bright & flashy & memorable.
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Its all computers these days kid!!!
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I like the dash. Bout time the companies un-stupid the last few years stupid procession of tubes and extruded holes and silver here and black there and a screen there and a gauge there. I am an analog gauge kind of guy but if they can't do gauges I'll take JUST screens. Looks good.
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In my opinion, a more realistic goal is producing a stock wake that can take someone from a beginner to an advanced recreational rider. I also think that goal has already been accomoplished. The stock wake isn't going to be the biggest hurdle a rider is going to face in most of the serious wake boats produced now. Again, that is just my opinion. |
Does the beaded seat cover come standard on the new Star or is that an extra option? If so what's the upgrade cost?
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Oh and just an FYI on the G23 thing. Not sure on the XStar dry weight but the G23 has a dry weight of like 5800 #s. That should be considered when people start comparing ballast and weight figures
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^^ and it keeps your back dry by allowing air through instead of sticking to vinyl.
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The dry weight of the 2012 G23 is 5800lbs and is 23' long and 102'' wide. Why does the smaller boat weigh 700 lbs more ? Is the MC made out of lighter materials or just less of them? |
its 24 ft long without the platform? i didn't know they went that much bigger on it.
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Be? If one needs sacks all over the place and the other doesn't - I would Say the one with sacks everywhere won't be as attractive. Doesn't matter if the other one weighs more. Point is- u don't want to have to fill tons of sacks and have them All over your boat. The actual boat being heavier dry - but already has a monster wake Takes the cake. |
I guess by Mhunters comments a Supra 242 coming in at over 24' and weighing 4,450 must really be made cheaply because its so much less then the g23?
Mhunter you didn't let us know what color of white top deck you ordered on your G23. I wonder if the new Xstar will blow a transmission the very first event it pulls for it's debut? And I think for 99.9% on this board, either a new Xstar or G23 with 2800lbs of ballast will be enough to make them happy. Hey Mhunter do you have any videos of YOU riding the G23? |
Any boat would blow a tranny with what was done to it right before the tourney.
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what was done to it before the tournament?
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501s do you want to answer that?
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Second I never said I was going to purchase a G23 in fact if you search my past posts I distinctly said ''Its not my cup of tea''. So i'm sorry no videos and even if there was one I'm really not that good. I think my next boat will be a comp boat I would like to get a 200 . Please tell me how a broken PCM part has anything to do with Nautique. And furthermore at least the G23 made its debut. Time will tell weather the G23 will have issues . With a PCM drivetrain I dont think the trans will be one of them. And with the Nautique 5 year warranty if anything crops up it will get handled . Instead of trying to start some crap between us why dont you tell me more about your X30 I looked at one at the boat show and if I were to ever buy a MC that would be at the top of my list. You already know I am a Nautique guy and I know you are a MC guy so I dont expect we will be double dating anytime soon. Don't confuse a little prodding with a serious brand bash. I think MC has a top notch product and when your at the top you have to expect a little ribbing but you do have to admit that green is Fugly. |
Look at how much more freeboard the G23 has than the 242 of X Star. Easy to see there is a LOT more glass required to make a boat that tall.
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