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Old    jetpilotrider03            10-06-2003, 2:44 PM Reply   
im havin trouble w/ em...any advice..and how the hell do you do the bodyvarieal over the wake?
Old    David D (wakeguru)      Join Date: Feb 2003       10-07-2003, 2:30 PM Reply   
You'll have to grab the board to do a wake to wake body varial.
Speaking of big spins, did you see that sequence of Aaron Reed in one of the latest WBM? A 3 with a blind varial. Whatever the hell that was it was sic.
Old    jetpilotrider03            10-08-2003, 2:16 PM Reply   
yeah i did...i dont know how they do some of that Sh*t..i'ts just sick as hell
Old    the not so naked chef (electricsnow)      Join Date: May 2002       10-13-2003, 9:24 PM Reply   
that was a backside big spin.
Old    jimmbo66            11-16-2003, 2:02 PM Reply   
well i just started wakeskating i went twice and i can only ollie and 180 and sometimes body varial. But if a big spin is the same on a skate board your describig sometihng different.. on a skate board its a 180 shuvit with a body varial the opposite way
Old    David D (wakeguru)      Join Date: Feb 2003       11-18-2003, 11:15 AM Reply   
It's the same Jimmy.
Aaron Reed did a shuvit 360 though with a body varial the opposite way - insane.
Old    the not so naked chef (electricsnow)      Join Date: May 2002       11-19-2003, 7:09 PM Reply   
Jimmy, that's not a big spin (I don't remember what it's called, but grubb does what you're describing in incomplete). A bigspin can be done frontside or backside, and it's a 360 shoveit with a body varial in the same direction.
Old    David D (wakeguru)      Join Date: Feb 2003       11-20-2003, 4:08 PM Reply   
Check that last sentence Chef and think about it. Visualize it. The body varial can be either frontside or backside and would not always
be "in the same direction".
Additionally, I don't think it has to be a shuv it 3 to be called a big spinny.
Many of the tricks in wakeskating have there roots in skateboarding - for obvious reasons.

Old    the not so naked chef (electricsnow)      Join Date: May 2002       11-20-2003, 8:47 PM Reply   
I know what a big spin is and I know it comes from skateboarding. I've learned (from trick tips in tws and whatnot) that you need a 360 shove and a body varial in the same direction as the shove (ex. backside bigspin, frontside bigspin). Perhaps I didn't type that clearly. Bs bigspin= backside 360 shove with your body doing a backside spinning body varial. Look at the photo of reed in the december 2003 issue of wbm, or watch sfumato. There are bigspins all over the place.

(Message edited by electricsnow on November 20, 2003)
Old    jetpilotrider03            11-20-2003, 9:49 PM Reply   
the "chef" is right..if you dont understand 'em..they are in hella vidoes..check out byerly in meternome
Old    xtremebordgurl            11-26-2003, 11:11 PM Reply   
David I think they showed Aaron's well, it might not have been Aaron but in Metronome some one pulled a 360 shuv-it with a blind 180, it was CRAZY!! Metronome is one sick vid, if U haven't seen it u gotta check it out. I think the rider may have been Daniel Lovett, or Drew... hmmm... I suppose I jus need to watch it again..
Old    Brian Johnson (bryan12345)      Join Date: Dec 2006       01-11-2007, 3:02 AM Reply   
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Old    Bart Urban (bartush)      Join Date: Jan 2007       01-19-2007, 1:08 PM Reply   
Jimmy "But if a big spin is the same on a skate board your describig sometihng different.. on a skate board its a 180 shuvit with a body varial the opposite way"

what your describing is called a gay twist.. shuv it body varial the other way... a big spin on a skateboard is when u 3 shuv and body varial the same direction as the board. ive been skateboarding for quite a while!
Old    Deepcove (deepcove)      Join Date: Mar 2004       01-19-2007, 7:43 PM Reply   
David D

chef is correct...the body varial is always done in the same direction as the 360 shuv....which can be either Fs or BS.
Old    Rick in Salinas (rickinsalinas)      Join Date: Oct 2006       03-06-2007, 12:01 AM Reply   
If you 360 shuvit and spin your body the other way... I think it would be a tre-shuvit sex change. Kickflipping and switching your feet up is a sex change on a skateboard... so I would call it a 360 shuvit sex change. Big spin is if you spin with the board (same direction)... a Bigger Spin is if the board does a 540.
Old    Ronin (ronin)      Join Date: Feb 2006       03-06-2007, 9:36 AM Reply   
Heres a vid of a nice proper big spin.

http://www.wakeskating.com/media/showphoto.php?photo=2430&cat=503
Old    Paul Bernier (wakeriderixi)      Join Date: Jan 2004       03-06-2007, 1:24 PM Reply   
Chef's correct!

The pop shuv with a body varial the other way I always heard, and called, a sex change. Jamie Thomas taught it to me.
Old     (sancho)      Join Date: Mar 2006       04-30-2007, 2:07 PM Reply   
A frontside 360 shuv w/ a bs body varial and vise versa fs3 shuv w/ bs bv is a gay twist. Big spins are 3shuvs with the body spining a 180 in the same direction as the board.
Old    Collin (kornhouse)      Join Date: May 2007       05-05-2007, 4:44 PM Reply   
dudes almost all the stuff is just emulating skateboard tricks but its on the water and you dont get leverage off the trucks and wheels so its slightly different. and a bigspin can be done fs or bs. say your goofy stanced like me and you wanna bigspin it goes like this
fs 180shuv+bs body varial= bs bigspin
or bs 180shuv+fs body varial=fs bigspin
Old     (sancho)      Join Date: Mar 2006       05-06-2007, 8:25 PM Reply   
no no no a big spin would be a fs 360shuv+ fs body varial= fs bigspin. bs bigspin would be the exact same thing substitute bs for fs.
Old     (sancho)      Join Date: Mar 2006       05-06-2007, 8:28 PM Reply   
go to wakeskating.com and then to trick tips and there is an explanation of a fs bigspin. read it and get back to me.

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