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Old    Justin (wakesk8er2)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-11-2017, 10:28 AM Reply   
Someone spill the beans.

They are teasing on social media. Gotta be something areound the corner.

Will it top the G or be a 200k meat wagon?
Old    Stephen P (stevo8290)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-11-2017, 11:10 AM Reply   
It will probably throw an equivalent wake around the same price i would assume.
Old    MLO (cbarguy1)      Join Date: Dec 2012       08-11-2017, 11:16 AM Reply   
There's a lot of speculation but no solid info on teamtalk. 2018 is the 50th anniversary so there should be a limited edition new star that will be over the top.

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/...ad.php?t=81255
Old    Stephen P (stevo8290)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-11-2017, 11:27 AM Reply   
I wish someone would say something about it. Not even the teamtalk thread yields info.

Honestly I hope the Xstar is one thing and one thing only, a wakeboard machine. Plenty of other boats in the lineup "do everything". This boat does not need to have wakesurfing in its blood at all. No surf tabs, no haul design for it, no marketing toward it. I know what your thinking "but stevo the G does both". Yes it does, and with the draft the new star is likely to have it probably wont be a bad surf wake by any stretch of the imagination. The flip side is that if this is a wakeboard only machine, the wakeboard wake has to out do the G wake.
Old    MLO (cbarguy1)      Join Date: Dec 2012       08-11-2017, 11:47 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by stevo8290 View Post
I wish someone would say something about it. Not even the teamtalk thread yields info.

Honestly I hope the Xstar is one thing and one thing only, a wakeboard machine. Plenty of other boats in the lineup "do everything". This boat does not need to have wakesurfing in its blood at all. No surf tabs, no haul design for it, no marketing toward it. I know what your thinking "but stevo the G does both". Yes it does, and with the draft the new star is likely to have it probably wont be a bad surf wake by any stretch of the imagination. The flip side is that if this is a wakeboard only machine, the wakeboard wake has to out do the G wake.
Its got to be tough for MC. Not many hardcore wakeboarders can afford a boat like this. But surf/wakeboard boats are everywhere now and many are really good. To stand out is a tall order these days.
Old    Matt Zelenik (mlzelenik)      Join Date: Apr 2016       08-11-2017, 11:51 AM Reply   
I've heard two rumors for upcoming MC's.

One will be a boat that you have to be a previous MC owner to purchase. The other is said to be 6,000+ lbs dry weight plus 6K+ in ballast. That's all I've heard
Old    Stephen P (stevo8290)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-11-2017, 12:12 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by cbarguy1 View Post
Its got to be tough for MC. Not many hardcore wakeboarders can afford a boat like this. But surf/wakeboard boats are everywhere now and many are really good. To stand out is a tall order these days.
You are definitely right about that. In the end, MC has got to sell boats. I bet it surfs great though, the drafts on these new boats are so deep that its kinda hard not to. The more I think about this the more I realize how right CC got it with the G23. The wakeboard wake is bigger and more consistent than anything ever produced, it surfs with the push of a button, its got more room and storage than almost anything else.

In theory, the g23 is the perfect boat. But if I had to critique it.....

1. The look of the boat from the outside is not for me. I really like the sharpness of the second gen star sitting in the water sacked out. Just looked mean and badass, where to me, most of the new boats look like pigs IMHO.

2. Speaking of pigs, the G drives like a pig, but I think its safe to say all the new wakeboard boats will. You can't have the G wake that drives like something based off of a ski boat.

3. I'm out of ideas, even those gripes are a stretch. MC has a lot of ground to make up
Old    D C (DCross)      Join Date: Jul 2016       08-11-2017, 12:30 PM Reply   
It would be cool if MC produces a wakeboarding boat that doesn't require 6000# of fat sacks strung out all over it to pump out a nice wake
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       08-11-2017, 12:47 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by stevo8290 View Post
I wish someone would say something about it. Not even the teamtalk thread yields info.

Honestly I hope the Xstar is one thing and one thing only, a wakeboard machine. Plenty of other boats in the lineup "do everything". This boat does not need to have wakesurfing in its blood at all. No surf tabs, no haul design for it, no marketing toward it. I know what your thinking "but stevo the G does both". Yes it does, and with the draft the new star is likely to have it probably wont be a bad surf wake by any stretch of the imagination. The flip side is that if this is a wakeboard only machine, the wakeboard wake has to out do the G wake.
These days if your boat doesn't make a surf wake, it won't sell. Surfers now support the industry. Surf is first and wakeboarding is a far distant second in terms of the buyers priority.
Old    Rick (CALIV210)      Join Date: Jun 2015       08-11-2017, 1:27 PM Reply   
Its gonna be a direct drive electric slalom only boat 2300 lbs and no wake . I got it on good authority from a friend of a friend of a friend that works at Tesla
Old     (RideGull)      Join Date: Apr 2012       08-11-2017, 2:43 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by mlzelenik View Post
I've heard two rumors for upcoming MC's.

One will be a boat that you have to be a previous MC owner to purchase.
Who do they think they are? Ferrari?
Old    Aric Brabec (aricsx15)      Join Date: Jan 2014       08-11-2017, 5:48 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by mlzelenik View Post
I've heard two rumors for upcoming MC's.

One will be a boat that you have to be a previous MC owner to purchase. The other is said to be 6,000+ lbs dry weight plus 6K+ in ballast. That's all I've heard
Where did you hear both of those things? Lolol
Old    Vee Drive (rexlex01)      Join Date: Mar 2010       08-11-2017, 7:34 PM Reply   
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http://www.wideopenbaja.com
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CrDlu9xnfFU

Last edited by rexlex01; 08-11-2017 at 7:38 PM.
Old    Matt Zelenik (mlzelenik)      Join Date: Apr 2016       08-12-2017, 11:12 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by aricsx15 View Post
Where did you hear both of those things? Lolol
From a dealer actually.
Old    Ifishok™ (ifishok)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-12-2017, 1:41 PM Reply   
I heard "It will have a trolling motor and a fish finder, Integrated PWC dock and a 24 volt inter-tube pump. Also the cruise control will perform high speed power turns".
Old    Brett Lee (BrettLee3232)      Join Date: Feb 2015       08-12-2017, 3:50 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo8290 View Post
I wish someone would say something about it. Not even the teamtalk thread yields info.



Honestly I hope the Xstar is one thing and one thing only, a wakeboard machine. Plenty of other boats in the lineup "do everything". This boat does not need to have wakesurfing in its blood at all. No surf tabs, no haul design for it, no marketing toward it. I know what your thinking "but stevo the G does both". Yes it does, and with the draft the new star is likely to have it probably wont be a bad surf wake by any stretch of the imagination. The flip side is that if this is a wakeboard only machine, the wakeboard wake has to out do the G wake.


People still wakeboard?

Lol
Old    Matt Zelenik (mlzelenik)      Join Date: Apr 2016       08-12-2017, 6:55 PM Reply   
It's official. New xstar is actual the first wakeboat of its kind designed for ants.

PROOF OF CLAIM:
https://instagram.com/p/BXsxoOVAnTE/
Old    doug rose (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-13-2017, 9:19 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by jarrod View Post
These days if your boat doesn't make a surf wake, it won't sell. Surfers now support the industry. Surf is first and wakeboarding is a far distant second in terms of the buyers priority.
They should make it a killer wakeboard boat at a uber low price, The Xstar was once the "star" of wake boarding, now its dead, however anyone feels about surfing, truth is, the market is totally focused on surfing and maybe they could sell a few boats to the young 20's market who want to buy into the status of an Xstar. They would do well focusing on the "I have an Xstar" crowd and not worry about buyers looking for a family boat, or flexible platform.
Old    Detox (bass10after)      Join Date: Feb 2010       08-13-2017, 2:37 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by dougr View Post
They should make it a killer wakeboard boat at a uber low price, The Xstar was once the "star" of wake boarding, now its dead, however anyone feels about surfing, truth is, the market is totally focused on surfing and maybe they could sell a few boats to the young 20's market who want to buy into the status of an Xstar. They would do well focusing on the "I have an Xstar" crowd and not worry about buyers looking for a family boat, or flexible platform.
Man i never thought much status of anyone with an x star, the previous gens had terrible layout for seating and a normal day on the lake to me- and never liked the giant bow either. 5 people in the cabin of the second gen and it was crowded! Great wake, maybe, but who cares.. the wakes on most new boats are probably more than 90% of most people can handle anyway. That said if it comes with xstar on the side it better be the baddest wake/wave in the whole lineup. Like the g and the m are, the star needs to be just that- the star
Old    Justin (wakesk8er2)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-13-2017, 7:00 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by dougr View Post
They should make it a killer wakeboard boat at a uber low price, The Xstar was once the "star" of wake boarding, now its dead, however anyone feels about surfing, truth is, the market is totally focused on surfing and maybe they could sell a few boats to the young 20's market who want to buy into the status of an Xstar. They would do well focusing on the "I have an Xstar" crowd and not worry about buyers looking for a family boat, or flexible platform.
No way they will have a flagship boat be a budget boat. If you want a budget X-Star with a nice wake, shop 2006-2011. No doubt MSRP will rival a decent house.

It needs to match or better the G or they may as well close the doors on the X-star program. Seems like the guys on the promo team are the only ones using them.
Old    Hunter Forrester (hunter991)      Join Date: Jul 2016       08-14-2017, 5:33 AM Reply   
As an MC owner, i really wish MC would produce a boat that didn't cost so much. I would love to get into an XT, but at 40k higher than the competition, its hard to figure on buying a new MC. The competition is getting so close now for all mfg's.
Old    Eric (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       08-14-2017, 10:10 AM Reply   
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As an MC owner, i really wish MC would produce a boat that didn't cost so much. I would love to get into an XT, but at 40k higher than the competition, its hard to figure on buying a new MC. The competition is getting so close now for all mfg's.
Not that it matters much to me, but this definitely leads me to ask........ 40k more than what competition?? A Moomba, or an Axis, or another value line boat?? I definitely know there isn't any equivalently optioned Malibu, Nautique, or even Supra, that is anywhere near that much cheaper than a X, or XT series MC, unless you are pricing out an X26 with a wetbar and a $hitter.

XT23 has a nationally advertised price of $98k, with a few basic options, bimini, trailering cover, decent stereo, and a trailer. Find me a brand new 23LSV, Supra SG, or SAN GS22, for anything much cheaper than that..... Sure, you can throw another 20k of options and motor on it......but you can on the others as well.
Old    Matthew Welton (all2matt)      Join Date: Apr 2015       08-14-2017, 10:58 AM Reply   
Isn't the XT supposed to be targeting the axis, moomba, supreme market? Then yes 30k more for the same-ish boat is crazy IMO.
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       08-14-2017, 11:20 AM Reply   
No, NXT 20/22 is the lower-end competitor
Old    MLO (cbarguy1)      Join Date: Dec 2012       08-14-2017, 1:59 PM Reply   
XT is the "crossover" line of boats according to MC. I'm not sure what to make of that since they are in no way a ski boat. But that's what they say. I think it just means they are lighter and less expensive than the X line.
Old    David Curtis (davez71)      Join Date: Oct 2007       08-14-2017, 2:15 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo8290 View Post
I wish someone would say something about it. Not even the teamtalk thread yields info.



Honestly I hope the Xstar is one thing and one thing only, a wakeboard machine. Plenty of other boats in the lineup "do everything". This boat does not need to have wakesurfing in its blood at all. No surf tabs, no haul design for it, no marketing toward it. I know what your thinking "but stevo the G does both". Yes it does, and with the draft the new star is likely to have it probably wont be a bad surf wake by any stretch of the imagination. The flip side is that if this is a wakeboard only machine, the wakeboard wake has to out do the G wake.


Unfortunately in today's boating world that just won't happen. I think it will be a Wakeboard first boat but will focus on surfing as well.

The current Gen XStar can hold its own when it comes to surfing. It is not push of a button like the X23 but it can be very good.

MC hasn't released anything on the new XStar. There has been rumors that something will come at the surf expo but that didn't make sense to me because MC wasn't even on the list of exhibitors.

The G has set the bar high when it comes to boats. The price is also high as well. I would imagine whatever they come out with will be pretty good. They seem to have the right vision lately with all the new models and upgrades.

Time will only tell.
Old    DTB (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       08-14-2017, 4:11 PM Reply   
There will be a new X-Star for 2018. It will likely hit in Feb or so. Can't really give any info but it is coming and will be a Wakeboard based of course.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       08-15-2017, 9:10 AM Reply   
I don't see why you would plan a release for February. By that time dealers are done with their 2018 orders. Seems to me it would have to be ready to show by Expo.
Old    DTB (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       08-15-2017, 11:14 AM Reply   
It is a weird release but should be ready for winter boat shows.
Old     (RideGull)      Join Date: Apr 2012       08-16-2017, 8:58 AM Reply   
It's being released at surf expo early September.
Old    Adam Holdsworth (holdsworth)      Join Date: Jan 2010       08-16-2017, 3:20 PM Reply   
Teaser vid on facebook here
Old    Jay (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-17-2017, 10:59 AM Reply   
I heard September as well.
Old    C.I.E. J-Rod (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       08-17-2017, 11:11 AM Reply   
Steel Laferty on the back of the new X-Star?
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Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       08-17-2017, 11:13 AM Reply   
top deck is clearly different in the video, but that could easily be a development hull
Old    Jay (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-17-2017, 11:33 AM Reply   
If it is, from the looks of the platform it still likes a lot of rear weight - not horrible though, compared to a few pics of Harley's boat. Hopefully the bow rise when at speed isn't that bad.
Old    BLAIR BARHAM (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       08-17-2017, 11:37 AM Reply   
The swim platform is pretty much sunk
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-17-2017, 9:39 PM Reply   
Old    Markj (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-17-2017, 10:46 PM Reply   
Should be interesting to see what's in store. Mastercraft has to do SOMETHING. They've been sucking hind teet for a LONG time now. I love seeing progression and improvement of all brands.
Old    DTB (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       08-18-2017, 3:47 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by RideGull View Post
It's being released at surf expo early September.


Yessir I was wrong. Will be out middle of Sept
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-18-2017, 3:51 AM Reply   
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Yessir I was wrong. Will be out middle of Sept


First week in sept
Old    Chase Tillett (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-18-2017, 10:11 AM Reply   
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       08-18-2017, 10:16 AM Reply   
yeah the wake looks bangin for sure

hopefully it'll still be clean and big at 22mph with a lot of weight

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