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Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       Today, 3:54 PM Reply   
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That quote is from the writings attributed to John, over 100 years after the fact. As you know John is not highly theological and makes no attempt at historicity.
actually there are a few theories on the author of the books of John, however many of the theological scholars accept the tradition authorship of the books.
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       Today, 4:08 PM Reply   
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I was ready to burn a shopping mall at the time however I gave up and went back home after I took advantage of a great end of season sale instead.
humor! See we HAVE missed you here, Delta!
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       Today, 4:09 PM Reply   
Of course they do lol.

Enjoy believing that god sent himself to sacrifice himself to himself to save us from himself (based on contradictory writings from decades after the events supposedly happened).

Getting off topic from Trump though, although unsurprising that so many threads ultimately make their way back to invisible imaginary friends.
Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       Today, 4:18 PM Reply   
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humor! See we HAVE missed you here, Delta!
Give it a few days....
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       Today, 4:18 PM Reply   
p.s. Sorry for the typo - earlier post should have read "is highly" not "is not highly"
Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       Today, 4:19 PM Reply   
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Of course they do lol.

Enjoy believing that god sent himself to sacrifice himself to himself to save us from himself (based on contradictory writings from decades after the events supposedly happened).

Getting off topic from Trump though, although unsurprising that so many threads ultimately make their way back to invisible imaginary friends.
They certainly do. I guess one thought is if you are inclined to not blame government, then it must be Gods followers fault.
Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       Today, 4:22 PM Reply   
Besides Wes. I always like it when you challenge me. You went to school for the topic so I have to go study when you make a claim. Makes me stronger.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       Today, 4:22 PM Reply   
Plenty of blame attributable to both I'd say.
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       Today, 4:27 PM Reply   
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Besides Wes. I always like it when you challenge me. You went to school for the topic so I have to go study when you make a claim. Makes me stronger.
America's never going to get great again with an attitude like that.
Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       Today, 4:32 PM Reply   
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Don't be too happy. While it would be best for the whole country to get democrats off the california radical leadership of the party, the people who are calling for her head are the true socialists (progressives). It was the progressive lite that took over when Howard Dean and company took the party radical right after Bush invaded Iraq.
Oops. meant to say when they took the party radical left after Bush.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       Today, 4:34 PM Reply   
Democrats are finally realizing Pelosi is every bit as toxic as Trump is with certain swaths of the voting population.
Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       Today, 4:43 PM Reply   
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Democrats are finally realizing Pelosi is every bit as toxic as Trump is with certain swaths of the voting population.
Yep. I heard someone speaking about the democrat party the other day. I think I had my thoughts similar but he put it pretty much in easier terms. The democrat party went from New York (center left) leadership to west coast (radical left) leadership. Radicalism is dominating the party now. Plenty of violence and calls for socialism. Pelosi is toxic however I am not sure her replacement is going to be a centrist. I think it will even be more of a radical. I think the loudest portion of the party really believes they have not been radical enough. Only place that message is playing is the biggest cities. Much of the rest of the country is pure American arguing over the scraps of commerce.
Old    Darrel F (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       Today, 5:17 PM Reply   
So where's the faux rage now that Sander's wife has lawyer-ed up for the federal probe against her shady dealings?

Lock her up, drain the swamp. The swamp is full of Dems and Repubs.

What are the chances the Senate GOP healthcare plan goes anywhere? 7 years of prep and the plan they come up with is a plan to reduce spending by reducing coverage, brilliant. Their plan will be insuring millions less people and raising cost to mostly middle class or poor. Nice tax break for the wealthiest tho. Some how this is not what I recall during the campaign. Wasnt it "Coverage for more people, reduce premiums, avoid cutting medicare and no one worse off" ?
I wrote this before in the Kathy Griffen thread, If you dont have a $20 Million+ net worth, earn $250K a year or more, or own/run a large company, he's not really going to help you.Trump will benefit big government, big business and big media and himself. Most everyone else is a patsie. I dont really understand why "average" americans (patsies) continue to back him. The swamp is filling, not draining. There is no party that is taking care of the middle class, the bulk of americans. Left is too concentrated on the fringe and lowest common denominator and the right is working to help the rich get richer. Prime time for change and no party is stepping up or attempting to take advantage. Middle class america is a patsie with no voice just empty wallets.
Old     (TheWakeIsReal)      Join Date: Jun 2016       Today, 5:23 PM Reply   
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Give it a few days....
Much better than the trash that was on here in your absence. While I don't agree with your opinion on almost everything, at least it's worth a read.
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       Today, 5:25 PM Reply   
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Yep. I heard someone speaking about the democrat party the other day. I think I had my thoughts similar but he put it pretty much in easier terms. The democrat party went from New York (center left) leadership to west coast (radical left) leadership. Radicalism is dominating the party now. Plenty of violence and calls for socialism. Pelosi is toxic however I am not sure her replacement is going to be a centrist. I think it will even be more of a radical. I think the loudest portion of the party really believes they have not been radical enough. Only place that message is playing is the biggest cities. Much of the rest of the country is pure American arguing over the scraps of commerce.
For every super-lib there's a tea partier. Two sides of the same extremist coin.

And extremism is great for zealotry. Those people are motivated. They'll march, they'll chant, they'll stand in line for hours to listen to people rile them up, they'll get crazy people elected who will say crazy things on cable TV all day everyday.

The vast majority of Americans are moderates who can see eye to eye on most issues, But moderates don't march. They don't chant. (What do we want? COMPROMISE! When do we want it? IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME!). And they (we) are really losing a voice for their (our) interests.
Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       Today, 6:32 PM Reply   
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Much better than the trash that was on here in your absence. While I don't agree with your opinion on almost everything, at least it's worth a read.
Thank you I think, haha. Don't worry. I will grow on you. More like a wart, but I will be there.
Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       Today, 6:39 PM Reply   
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So where's the faux rage now that Sander's wife has lawyer-ed up for the federal probe against her shady dealings?

Lock her up, drain the swamp. The swamp is full of Dems and Repubs.

What are the chances the Senate GOP healthcare plan goes anywhere? 7 years of prep and the plan they come up with is a plan to reduce spending by reducing coverage, brilliant. Their plan will be insuring millions less people and raising cost to mostly middle class or poor. Nice tax break for the wealthiest tho. Some how this is not what I recall during the campaign. Wasnt it "Coverage for more people, reduce premiums, avoid cutting medicare and no one worse off" ?
I wrote this before in the Kathy Griffen thread, If you dont have a $20 Million+ net worth, earn $250K a year or more, or own/run a large company, he's not really going to help you.Trump will benefit big government, big business and big media and himself. Most everyone else is a patsie. I dont really understand why "average" americans (patsies) continue to back him. The swamp is filling, not draining. There is no party that is taking care of the middle class, the bulk of americans. Left is too concentrated on the fringe and lowest common denominator and the right is working to help the rich get richer. Prime time for change and no party is stepping up or attempting to take advantage. Middle class america is a patsie with no voice just empty wallets.
Calling everyday Americans patsies is not that answer. Most regular people understand basics of budge and want Americans first. What empties peoples wallets is forced expenditures. Taxes, fees, have to buy this or that. Business can only claim so much income and redistribute it through payroll, investors and taxes. By nature you will always have the have and have nots. It is the nature of any system. Average Americans know that need jobs and are willing to work those jobs. If you look at the voting map, middle America believes the Republicans are looking out for them more than democrats.
Old    Someone Else (deltahoosier)      Join Date: Jun 2002       Today, 6:43 PM Reply   
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For every super-lib there's a tea partier. Two sides of the same extremist coin.

And extremism is great for zealotry. Those people are motivated. They'll march, they'll chant, they'll stand in line for hours to listen to people rile them up, they'll get crazy people elected who will say crazy things on cable TV all day everyday.

The vast majority of Americans are moderates who can see eye to eye on most issues, But moderates don't march. They don't chant. (What do we want? COMPROMISE! When do we want it? IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME!). And they (we) are really losing a voice for their (our) interests.
That is why most moderate people want the government out of their lives. Government is shaped by agenda (loud voices and big money). Government should take care of the basics and big dream projects at best. other than that, quit trying to get everyone to pay for everyone else.
Old    Wes (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       Today, 6:43 PM Reply   
Curious to get your take on the automation thread, Rod. What do we do when jobs disappear, en masse like the coming driverless truck phenomenon?

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