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Old    Regan (ReganC)      Join Date: Aug 2014       08-09-2014, 11:35 AM Reply   
Hey all! So basically, I have been riding for a few years, but I never ventured farther than just cutting alongside the boat and enjoying a smooth ride.

Last year, however, I became more interested in trying to land some jumps. To date I have been able to get some air/distance, but not nearly enough to land a wake-to-wake. I have been looking at videos and such to try and get a better idea of what I need to do to improve. Nonetheless, I would love if some of you had tips or ideas for me..?

I'm going to the river for an entire week and have high hopes that I can finally hit it right. Honestly, I think my biggest barrier is fear. I've taken many falls and endured the countless headaches that follow, and I think I subconsciously back off during my approach to avoid another spill. So if you have and ideas about how to get over my fear I would be forever in your debt.

Thanks in advance, everyone!
Old    Tim C (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       08-14-2014, 12:12 PM Reply   
It helps being a we are normally pretty ignorant and just put most rational fears aside...but seriously, I started wakeboarding as a 35 year old married father of two young girls so hurting myself bad was not something I was ready to risk being a single income family.

Your question is a good one - and one I deal with trying to get my toeside W2W down. I find that I try to go to my comfort level jump which is about 2/3's of the wake width (not stacking the opposite wake) and do that over and over then if conditions are good do a full W2W. Sometimes I get it and sometimes I don't.

Sometimes going faster is all you need. The extra speed with the narrower wake is often all it takes. Of course, my last boat was a DD and I really had to sack it out to get a wake that I could get all the way across.
Old    Surf Addict (Desi) (phathom)      Join Date: Jun 2013       08-14-2014, 1:30 PM Reply   
Consistent edging into the wake, make sure you lock your legs when you hit the wake going in so you it pops you up and you don't absorb the energy in your legs.
This can be done either by standing tall (easier), or locking yourself back in a seated position, either way, keep constant pressure down on the board and do not let your knees buckle to absorb the energy. You also should bring the handle down low to your waist and pull it in as close to your body as possible to help load the line.

About the headaches from the falls. Normally this happens from your ear slapping the water, which can be quite painful and sometimes disorienting. Pick up a pair of ear plugs and that will greatly help that. I picked up a silicone, stepped ear plug and nose plug combo on amazon for like $1.50 shipped. I can still hear the music from the tower speakers and people talking in the boat just fine when I'm on board, but no more headaches from hard landings.
Old    Jeremy Allen (homer)      Join Date: Jul 2012       08-15-2014, 6:06 AM Reply   
Wear a helmet if you have major fears of slapping the water with your head. Should help your confidence and help you bounce back quicker without much headache.
Old    Trayson Harmon (trayson)      Join Date: May 2013       08-15-2014, 9:39 AM Reply   
Originally Posted by homer View Post
Wear a helmet if you have major fears of slapping the water with your head. Should help your confidence and help you bounce back quicker without much headache.
I started riding with a helmet last week. I can't count the number of headaches I've given myself wakeboarding and I wear a helmet 100% of the time snowboarding, so it seemed silly to skip the helmet on the water.

The softest landing is always going to be when you just far enough that you're clearing the wake and coming down on the other side's wake. Once you get to that point, it will really boost your confidence.

Other thing I've found is that having that "hang on, I can pull this out" mentality helps. I've recovered from landings where I was most certainly off and people were amazed that I was able to ride it out; and the biggest reason I pulled it out is because I didn't mentally give up thinking I was off enough that I couldn't recover and would crash. If you mentally decide that you're gonna crash before it actually happens, it'll be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Trying a shorter rope length might be helpful too. It'll have you jumping where the wake is narrower (as the abovementioned speed suggestion).

Good luck and have fun!
Old    Tim C (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       08-15-2014, 9:49 AM Reply   
I was going to mention the helmet thing...I should probably do wear one also.

Also - focus on where you want to land. Often that helps like the mental thing mentioned by trayson. And X2 on the shorter rope.
Old    August (augie_09)      Join Date: Mar 2011       08-15-2014, 10:23 AM Reply   
are you maintaining balance and control when airborne? Focusing on that first then height/distance second may help reduce your crashes.

not sure how clean your boats wake is at slow speeds, but try going to 18 -19 mph and 55-60ft rope. Falls will hurt a lot lot less at this speed and the wake should be narrow enough to clear at that speed and rope length.

I've heard all these from others;
- Try to forget the wake and just imagine you are cutting from one side to the other.
- imagine you are trying to sit down or hover above a dirty toilet the closer to the wake you get, the lower you sit down. (heels into the water) Then you can play around with starting to stand back up towards the top of the wake or once airborne.
- image 3 speeds, like a car and first gear is when you are cut all the way out, then 2nd gear when 1/2 way to the wake and then 3rd gear going up the wake. Each gear you cut harder. Just another way to think about a progressive edge.
- look at the opposite wake where you plan on landing, not staring at the wake you are about to launch off.
- dont' flatten off up the wake, but try to cut through it
- put equal pressure on boat feet, you can typically put more pressure on your front foot than you'd expect
Old    Regan (ReganC)      Join Date: Aug 2014       08-27-2014, 12:01 PM Reply   
Thank you so much to everyone who replied! I will be sure to try all of the above the next time I get out!

I will try to post a video of my last trip on here for anybody who is interested in helping me analyze what to work on specifically.

Also, I tried cable wakeboarding for the first time (at BlueWater Resort & Casino in AZ). It was a blast for sure! But even with my helmet, a particularly nasty spill off of a jump really hammered my head hard - my helmet's buckle undid halfway and was pushed to the back of my neck - it still hurts just thinking about it.

Not sure if after that a helmet will truly boost my confidence, but I'll give it a shot at the very least!


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