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Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       04-01-2014, 6:46 AM Reply   
Here's a video of Greg Nelson discussing the tragic passing of Cory Kraut. I am sure that 50% of those of you reading this don't know who Greg Nelson is and 80% don't know who Cory Kraut. None-the-less, we have him to thank off axis spinning. This is a very touching video-

http://www.wakeworld.com/news/videos...eg-nelson.html

Wear your vest.

Last edited by wakeworld; 04-02-2014 at 10:30 PM.
Old    Surf Addict (Desi) (phathom)      Join Date: Jun 2013       04-01-2014, 9:18 AM Reply   
This is so true. I remember growing up my dad drilling this into all of us kids and anyone we brought on the boat, kids or adults.
It was basically a, "I am not going to have the conversation with your parents, wife, brother, etc. that you were stupid and stubborn to wear a life jacket and that you've drowned and/or gone missing because of it. I am not going to have that on my conscience. You don't wear one, you don't ride (or get in the water for the kids)"

My kids and friends will be getting the exact same lecture.

Where your life jackets, live to ride another day. Even a comp vest nowadays provides enough flotation that they can find you and get you to safety in a reasonable time.
Old    Dave (bcrider)      Join Date: Apr 2006       04-01-2014, 9:27 AM Reply   
I will admit in the early/mid 90's I was that kid for a while and it was probably due to the fact of watching the pro level guys riding sans life jacket. I think about it now and realize how stupid it was especially with some of the falls I have taken. Even a comp vest at 225lbs doesn't do much to keep you above water.
Old    Paulh (paulharenberg)      Join Date: Jul 2007       04-01-2014, 9:41 AM Reply   
A comp vest does not do anything at all to keep you above the water.
Old    Chris Hernandez (CHern5972)      Join Date: Jul 2012       04-01-2014, 10:23 AM Reply   
I remember this story to the T. I knew a guy that knew cory, so this story hit home real fast. We used to ride our rivers around here and thinking awww im riding without it. Now i make sure to have everyone wear a PFD. Sad story for a kid with Skills.
Old    L W (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       04-01-2014, 10:26 AM Reply   
Up to this point, I have never had a rider want to ride without a life jacket.

I think it's almost always either a pro or wanna be pro thinking they are too cool for a jacket. I will never buy the "it hinders my performance" argument. Guys do it just to look cool. Why die just to look cool to a few people while the rest of us think you're a dork. Wear your vest.
Old    Mike (slowwwflowww)      Join Date: Mar 2011       04-01-2014, 11:25 AM Reply   
So damn sad so damn true!!Wear it!!!It saved my life I told this story on here of how I was getting pulled under boat from being too close and currents.
Old    Surf Addict (Desi) (phathom)      Join Date: Jun 2013       04-01-2014, 11:35 AM Reply   
Let me rephrase my previous post, "Even a comp vest nowadays provides enough flotation that they can find you and get you to safety in a reasonable time."

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A comp vest is better than nothing. It will help you not sink as fast, not make you not sink. Still a better option than wearing nothing. They obviously aren't USCG approved for a reason. Personally, I wouldn't wear one and will only wear a life jacket.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       04-01-2014, 11:48 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by bcrider View Post
I will admit in the early/mid 90's I was that kid for a while and it was probably due to the fact of watching the pro level guys riding sans life jacket. I think about it now and realize how stupid it was especially with some of the falls I have taken. Even a comp vest at 225lbs doesn't do much to keep you above water.
I was totally that kid, I never wore a vest, I didn't think I needed to, the pros didn't, I wanted to be a pro and if that's what they did that's what I needed to do. I completely remember telling my folks that it limits my range of motion and slows my progression. My folks would always make me wear it, as soon as they would go up to the house, I would take it off. Just Dumb.
Old    Justin Harrelson (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       04-01-2014, 11:52 AM Reply   
Some comp vests work others are a joke. If you go the comp vest route (I do), be careful in your selection. If it seems to thin and too light in the shop to be true, it probably is...

Over a long enough time scale you will have a story that ends, "I'm glad I had my vest on." If you never have, you will if you do it long enough. Wear a vest that floats.
Old    Danny Smylie (smylie)      Join Date: Jun 2002       04-01-2014, 12:02 PM Reply   
Here is a test to check to see how well your comp vest floats you. Float in the water with your feet beneath you and start to blow out the air that is in your lungs. Watch how quickly you start to sink. It is crazy how quickly you sink. If you lose your board and are knocked out and inhale water you will go down pretty quick.
Old    CIREboardshorts.com (nuckledragger)      Join Date: Jun 2004       04-01-2014, 6:44 PM Reply   
Not wearing a vest is equal to not wearing a seatbelt in the car.
Old    Markj (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       04-01-2014, 10:35 PM Reply   
I had a close scare once with a comp vest. Got the wind knocked out of me after landing hard and that vest was worthless. It was a name brand too. Never again... I threw it away and bought an approved one. The only thing comp vests MAY be good for is recovering your body if that.
Old    DanielPeyton            04-02-2014, 12:04 AM Reply   
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Old    Chris Ranner (chrislandy)      Join Date: Mar 2014       04-02-2014, 2:41 AM Reply   
I must admit I've been riding since the early 90's and hardly every wore a vest until 2004ish but I was a crossover from trick skiing and we never wore them for that either. It was only when the "impact" vests started to become available that I bought one - and that was all it was, an impact vest and I even fractured a rib using that once too... got a propper one now. I've had a few "I wonder when I'll come up" moments though, even with the CG approved vests so gawd knows how long I would have been down for if I hadn't been wearing it!
Old     (whiteflashwatersports1)      Join Date: Dec 2012       04-02-2014, 12:13 PM Reply   
It makes me sick when I see people without a USCG approved vest on - just crazy. When we go in the intracoastal vs. the lake we don,t even let people take swim breaks without them - the current is way to strong.
Old    Justin Harrelson (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       04-02-2014, 2:58 PM Reply   
All Coast Guard vests float. Comp vest exist on a continuum. I only wear comp vests and I only wear vests that float. I have enough experience to know what works and what does not.
Old    Markj (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       04-02-2014, 11:55 PM Reply   
Comp vests are nothing but false security for morons and riders who aren't good enough to do their moves with an approved vest. I should know since I was one of those morons 15 years ago. My reason for buying a non approved vest at the time was because it was cheaper. Can't believe I risked my life to save $50.
Old    Justin Harrelson (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       04-03-2014, 6:12 AM Reply   
There are plenty of good/safe non-approved vests out there. The oneil Outlaw or the Ronix Adam E vest for example. It is about common sense and balance. My Adam E pullover has plenty of floatation for 100% wakeboard situations for me. I'm only posting because not all comp vests are death traps. Only a few are, but when you wonder into that territory you are taking a risk.
Old    Zeke Cervantes (SurfAK83)      Join Date: Apr 2014       04-09-2014, 2:15 AM Reply   
Had a buddy of mine two years ago drown cause he wasnt wearing a vest. He took off at night on a waverunner from a party at a lake cabin without a vest pissed off and drunk. Found the waverunner beached across the lake the next day. It took two weeks of dredging and searching the lake to find his body. Fell off and the ski got away from him. Doesnt matter how strong a swimmer you are.
Old    Andy Nintzel (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004       04-10-2014, 6:50 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by SurfAK83 View Post
Had a buddy of mine two years ago drown cause he wasnt wearing a vest. He took off at night on a waverunner from a party at a lake cabin without a vest pissed off and drunk. Found the waverunner beached across the lake the next day. It took two weeks of dredging and searching the lake to find his body. Fell off and the ski got away from him. Doesnt matter how strong a swimmer you are.
Super sorry to hear that man!
Old    Gene Williams (gene3x)      Join Date: Apr 2005       04-21-2014, 2:26 PM Reply   
Even some CGA Vests don't float my big ass! Especially if they are waterlogged over time. They tend to lose some floatation over years of use.

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