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Old    TODD YOST (yodd_tost)      Join Date: Aug 2007       02-09-2014, 8:53 AM Reply   
I am starting the search for my new boat. Seems the Tige 24v is going to be right about what I am looking for. We primarily surf, but do like to wakeboard too, so I would like the surf wave to be pretty close to awesome on both sides, and the wakeboard wave to be nice(not awesome). We usually have 8+ peeps going with 4-6 adults and 4+ kids w/ gear when we go out. If their are other boats that would fit into this criteria I would like input on them.

I do have some questions on the tige's though, I am looking at the '05,'06,'07 years( these seem to be in my price range 40k max). Are there any differences in these years? What is the difference between the 24v and the 24ve? Is the 340hp enough for these big boats?

Thanks in advance!
Old    TigeMike (chpthril)      Join Date: Oct 2007       02-09-2014, 9:44 AM Reply   
06 was the last year of the "V" hull and also the 1st year of the "Ve". Booth are about the same LOA. The running surface of the two hulls is very similar, but a little more rocker was added to the Ve. No real changes between an 05 and 06 V and no huge difference between the 06 Ve and 07 Ve. Different vinyl, I think the "Z" tower was an option, but the boat was pretty much the same.

The major difference between the V and Ve was that the Ve has a longer windshield frame transom storage/seating and no longer the sloping transom.

The 340 MP is plenty of engine, but once surf ballast is added, you will exceed the capabilities of the factory 537 prop if thats by chance still on it.

Those hulls can produce a clean wave on either side.
Old    Ryan K (FastR3DN3K)      Join Date: Jun 2013       02-09-2014, 11:18 AM Reply   
Looks like the hull questions have been answered pretty well, and the motor should be plenty as long as you're not running with a crazy amount of weight and a ton of people/gear or running at high altitude. My RZ4 is running the 343 PCM with factory prop and has no problem getting out of the hole with 1500 lbs of ballast and 10+ adults on board. I've had 16 on the boat before and I started to notice it wasn't as quick then, but nothing a prop swap wouldn't fix. If you're worried about the power, a new prop will erase any issue you may have.
Old    TODD YOST (yodd_tost)      Join Date: Aug 2007       02-09-2014, 11:34 AM Reply   
What setup ballast wise is good for these boats?
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       02-09-2014, 11:41 AM Reply   
Todd,

Duff Mahoney from the CDA area is running an older 24V I believe. He am sure he will have some great insights on the boat and how to set it up for surfing.
Old    Seahawks #1 Fan Robert T (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       02-09-2014, 11:46 AM Reply   
Most of the new Tige's are using 500 lbs [250 on each side] up front on those size boats. The rear sub-floor has 250 lbs on each side and most surfers prefer 1000 lb bags in each locker for surfing. The popular set-up is 100% FULL on surf side rear . The front is full on both sides and the rear off side is 50% full. What you are looking for is about a 7 degree list. Speed range is 10.5 to 11.5 mph and Taps between 2.5 to 4.5. Good Luck.
Old    Eric B (chillaxin)      Join Date: Jun 2012       02-09-2014, 2:20 PM Reply   
http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=787204

Here is one of duffys threads with a few pics of his wave. It's a beautiful wave and I know he has done a ton of research on that boat. Hopefully he will chime in. My brother had a 22v and my cousin has a 22ve. I don't know that either wave is superior but I do know the interior changes that tigemike mentioned are nice
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-09-2014, 5:45 PM Reply   
24v is a sweet sweet surf boat. Big, roomy, tons of freeboard. Most don't come with ballast so it would have to be installed, but that isn't that big of an issue. I run custom rear ballast bags- 1800 # and dual 450's in the bow. The boat handles that much weight without an issue. My buddy has a 24ve and the wave is pretty similar. Only issue is the rear lockers are smaller so you can't get as much water ballast in it.
Old    Brian Stroup (bstroop)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-09-2014, 6:15 PM Reply   
Not 100% sure for all years but if it doesn't have Tige's version of cruise control and it's the fuel injected MP 340 you can't install perfect pass on it. Just want to give you a heads up on something to look into.

I had a carb'd 06 and could use standard perfect pass, but was told that there was no compatability with the 06 fuel injected Marine Power.

You'll be stuck with speed set, or Tige cruise, or whatever the name is. Not sure how well they perform.....maybe others can chime in and confirm/deny
Old    RB (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       02-09-2014, 7:42 PM Reply   
I have heard the same thing. Perfect Pass is not compatible with the MP340 engine.
Old    TODD YOST (yodd_tost)      Join Date: Aug 2007       02-10-2014, 5:58 AM Reply   
Can anyone confirm or deny the speed control and if there is issues with it?

Any other boats that perform like the tige that would be in my price range?
Old    TODD YOST (yodd_tost)      Join Date: Aug 2007       02-10-2014, 6:00 AM Reply   
Brett- maybe I can hire you to find me a smokin deal on my next boat....it seems that you have a knack for finding awesome deals:-)
Old    FENCE SENCE (fence_sence)      Join Date: Jul 2008       02-10-2014, 8:03 AM Reply   
It was the '06 MP 340 with the first gen Tige Speed Set with no display. All it had was a light that showed it was engaged. Perfect Pass will confirm this if you call them. If I remember correctly, it was just that specific set up.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-10-2014, 8:06 AM Reply   
03-05 Tige's are perfect pass. 06 went to speed set, which isn't as nice.
Old    TigeMike (chpthril)      Join Date: Oct 2007       02-10-2014, 9:46 AM Reply   
Actually, in 06, the Ve had the DBW MP 340 and an 06 V could have still had the cable driven throttle with PP
Old    Greg "The Hammer" (leaks)      Join Date: Oct 2005       02-10-2014, 11:22 AM Reply   
Todd;
I have an '05 24V that I wouldnt trade for anything out there. I have an Enzo sac in both the port and starboard side lockers. As Duffy said earlier, space isnt an issue with these monsters. We usually ride with only 3-4 people, and still get a nice wave. Dont hessitate. You wont be dissapointed.
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Old     (Tallredrider)      Join Date: Mar 2011       02-10-2014, 12:15 PM Reply   
Ditto what was said above about speed set. It is a unique problem to 2006 models with the MP engine and the Tige factory Speed set. Threre are a few 2006 models out there with PCM engines, which are not a problem.

I owned a 2005 24V. Still miss it on some days. It was a great boat and had plenty of power with the 340HP engine. That is why there are very few of them in existence with any sort of upgraded motor.
Old    Duffy Mahoney (duffymahoney)      Join Date: Sep 2008       02-10-2014, 5:18 PM Reply   
If you have any specific questions on a 24v you can email me directly. Duffymahoney(a)hotmail(dot)com
Old    TODD YOST (yodd_tost)      Join Date: Aug 2007       03-04-2014, 5:25 AM Reply   
Any thoughts on the 06-08 22ve's? Are the similar to the 24's as far as being able to get a good wake out of them?
Old    RB (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       03-04-2014, 8:03 AM Reply   
People say the suf wave on these boats is good when weighted. You hear way more about the 22V and VE being surf machines then the 24, far more common boat. Just not that many of the 24's out there. In 3 years now my dealer yes yet to order or sell a RZ4(current 24 footer).
Old    Kirk Johnson (akdoc)      Join Date: Feb 2004       03-04-2014, 9:19 AM Reply   
You can't go wrong with the 24ve. We have a 2006 and it can put out a huge surf wake both sides and the wakeboarding wake is great as well. The Tige speed set is the major drawback, plain and simple it sucks. Sometimes it is hard to engage at surfing speed, especially when heavily weighted. You can't see the light in bright sun so you have to cup your hand around it to make sure it is solid which means it is set. I wouldn't call it a deal breaker but Tige def screwed that one up.
Old    TODD YOST (yodd_tost)      Join Date: Aug 2007       03-06-2014, 5:28 AM Reply   
There is a 22ve that popped up in my area. I am just wondering if I should get that or hold out for a 24. Its hard, most 24's that I am finding will need to be shipped so that's extra cost to me also....decisions, decisions. Just trying to figure out the difference between the 2 boats....
Old    Seahawks #1 Fan Robert T (cwb4me)      Join Date: Apr 2010       03-06-2014, 5:44 AM Reply   
I had a 2007 22VE and it makes a nice wave with the large Enzo sac's in the rear lockers. The wave will just be a little shorter and not as tall as the 24 VE. When both boats are loaded and listed properly the 24 VE is just a little better wave,but it's easier to get a surf able wave on the 22VE and it will require less weight.
Old    TODD YOST (yodd_tost)      Join Date: Aug 2007       03-07-2014, 5:55 AM Reply   
May need to expand the search a little.....how do the supra 24v's compare to the tige's 24 and also the 22ssv/sunsport vs the tige 22v/ve, same years as listed above 05-08. Thanks in advance.
Old    TODD YOST (yodd_tost)      Join Date: Aug 2007       03-09-2014, 2:27 PM Reply   
So I think I am leaning toward a 04 24v I found. Are these the same hulls as the 05-08 yrs?
Old    TODD YOST (yodd_tost)      Join Date: Aug 2007       03-09-2014, 2:29 PM Reply   
That is a 04 tige 24v

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