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Old    Connor (iShredSAN)      Join Date: Apr 2012       01-31-2014, 8:21 AM Reply   
I am about to upgrade my system to the Rev series. Wondering what everyone is running and thinks sounds the best. My options are either (4) Rev 10s, (2) Rev 410s, or (2) Rev 10s and a Rev 410 (3some). Keep in mind these are going on a 99 SAN (my boat/tower is not G series huge). Are these three setups about the same weight, etc? Post some pics of y'alls Rev setups if you have em. Just trying to get some good ideas flowing before I pull the trigger...
Old    Harold Hemming (h20king)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-31-2014, 8:26 AM Reply   
If you have the room I vote for a set of 410's
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Old    J (Jmorlan)      Join Date: May 2013       01-31-2014, 8:33 AM Reply   
I have 4 rev10's, and I wish I would have went with something like the threesome, or 410's instead kind of. The 410 imo has a warmer midbass sound.
The rev10's are a bit rough on the ear at close distances I think


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Old    Bryce Pool (bryce2320)      Join Date: May 2012       01-31-2014, 8:33 AM Reply   
The rev 10s may be a tad louder, but Tim told me that he could have slapped 4 rev 10s on the new demo boat and not spent any money designing clamps, that's how good the 410s are. I haven't heard a 410, but I went with the rev 3 some, because of the look, and have the best of both worlds
Old    Daniel (cowwboy)      Join Date: Jul 2008       01-31-2014, 8:50 AM Reply   
I run two 410's and I love the sound.

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Old    David (DavidAnalog)      Join Date: Sep 2013       01-31-2014, 8:52 AM Reply   
The Rev410 has slightly more pod displacement than two Rev10s. The Rev410 tweeter diaghram is larger and can reach a bit deeper into the midrange, plus, the horn is larger and more progressive and there is less diffraction at the mouth of the horn. The Rev410 midbass drivers have 5%+ more surface area because the cones are continuous. The Rev410 midbass drivers are a bit better damped because the dust cap is sealed. Of all tower HLCDs, the Rev410 has the smoothest transition between midbass and tweeter drivers, and the best midbass. So in terms of sound quality the Rev410 is easily the best HLCD on the market today. One pair is as good as it gets. Obviously more is louder but never with the coherence of a single pair.
Two pair of Rev10s may give the perception of a tad more peak output (at a single frequency), but certainly not more average output.
There is an advantage to a 3-Some in that you can angle the two outside speakers wide for a broader array, wider off-axis dispersion, and less comb filtering effect.
Old    Ben R (brichter14)      Join Date: Jul 2010       01-31-2014, 10:04 AM Reply   
As far as fitting them on the tower i think you can do any and all of the options. I have a pro three some that looks like this.

Old    Ben R (brichter14)      Join Date: Jul 2010       01-31-2014, 10:07 AM Reply   




The fct2 tower is super solid. If you have the fct1 that might have some flex because of weight. These speakers are pretty heavy.
Old    Jason (corerider)      Join Date: May 2008       01-31-2014, 12:47 PM Reply   
I personally like the look of the Rev410s better on the FCT. They're a tight fit, but fill the tower once mounted. Mine are powered by a SYN4 and that is great sound, but if it ever goes out I will probably upgrade to an SD4 just to push them a bit more. With only 400x2 they just cruise like a Cadillac, but with 685x2 I'm pretty sure I would never look for more. Here are some crappy, but useful pics to help you get an idea for what they would look like on you tower. For reference mine is a 2003 SANTE.





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Old    Ben R (brichter14)      Join Date: Jul 2010       01-31-2014, 2:43 PM Reply   
Jason your boat is too sexy.
Old    Rob Fullerton (Gotmods)      Join Date: Nov 2012       01-31-2014, 5:29 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jmorlan View Post
I have 4 rev10's, and I wish I would have went with something like the threesome, or 410's instead kind of. The 410 imo has a warmer midbass sound.
The rev10's are a bit rough on the ear at close distances I think


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Based on how many hours of use? Rhetorical question.
Old    J (Jmorlan)      Join Date: May 2013       01-31-2014, 5:37 PM Reply   
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Based on how many hours of use? Rhetorical question.

About 20. It doesn't take long to hear it and form an opinion.
I knew I liked the 410 sound better in about 30 seconds when I heard them in comparison at Acme.
But I liked the swivel feature on the rev10's and at the time was concerned with having a little more volume.
Now that I've had these out a few times. I think the 3some would have been the way to go.
Rhetorical answer.


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Old    J (Jmorlan)      Join Date: May 2013       01-31-2014, 5:47 PM Reply   
Id be willing to trade someone a virtually brand new pair of white rev10's with swivel clamps.
For a new/great condition white 410


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Old    Rob Fullerton (Gotmods)      Join Date: Nov 2012       01-31-2014, 5:53 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jmorlan View Post
Id be willing to trade someone a virtually brand new pair of white rev10's with swivel clamps.
For a new/great condition white 410


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There's nothing virtual about it. They are new!
Old    Nauti 210 (brett33)      Join Date: Apr 2011       02-01-2014, 7:40 AM Reply   
I know the OP has 4 pro60s currently.. Would you think 1 pair of rev10s would be a substantial difference from where he is now, as far as output and midbass on the tower? I know some people like Jason are powering their 410s with a syn4, but what about amping a rev 3 some?
Old    Bryce Pool (bryce2320)      Join Date: May 2012       02-01-2014, 7:55 AM Reply   
I've got a rev 3 some that I'll be installing on my axis shortly, and I'm amping it with the SD6. 585 watts to each pod, should be plenty
Old    David (DavidAnalog)      Join Date: Sep 2013       02-01-2014, 9:19 AM Reply   
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I know the OP has 4 pro60s currently.. Would you think 1 pair of rev10s would be a substantial difference from where he is now, as far as output and midbass on the tower? I know some people like Jason are powering their 410s with a syn4, but what about amping a rev 3 some?
Whether one pair or ten pair, as you add more speakers and power you add more output. But ten pair of 6.5-inch HLCDs (Pro60) won't play any deeper midbass than one pair. Any amount of Rev10s will play deeper, warmer and sound better. Also, one pair of Rev10s edge out two pair of Pro60s in surface area.

If a Wetsounds Syn4 works well bridged on a pair of Rev10s then a bridged Syn2 is ideal for a single Rev410....and you have very symmetrical power to each 10-inch driver. One set of JL Audio HD750/1s would power the 3-Some perfectly. You can also use Wetsounds SD amplifiers on a 3-Some although there will be some small level of power inequity.
Old    Markj (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-01-2014, 9:22 AM Reply   
I went with 4 REV 10s on my SAN because I preferred the look of them over the 410s but I'm warming up to the 410s after seeing Jason's. The only thing I don't like about the 410s is they look a little bit like someone strapped a boom box to the tower.
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       02-01-2014, 9:33 AM Reply   
1 750/1 for a 3some? That would be extremely underpowered unless I missing something here.
Old    Markj (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-01-2014, 9:43 AM Reply   
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1 750/1 for a 3some? That would be extremely underpowered unless I missing something here.
He said one set. Not just one.
Old    David (DavidAnalog)      Join Date: Sep 2013       02-01-2014, 9:47 AM Reply   
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1 750/1 for a 3some? That would be extremely underpowered unless I missing something here.
You did miss something. To quote, "One set...." of HD750/1s (equals two).
That would be 375 guaranteed watts (down to 20 Hz and not just at 1kHz.) to each 10-inch driver in a 3-Some.
Plus, being strictly regulated, the full rated power remains intact well below the safe battery operating level. That's automatically a 25% power increase with a 12.5 volt supply which is far more realistic than a 14.4 volt supply.
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       02-01-2014, 9:51 AM Reply   
410s with sd4... Must be heard to be believed.
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Old    David (DavidAnalog)      Join Date: Sep 2013       02-01-2014, 9:58 AM Reply   
One pair of Rev410s driven by an SD2. You've reached the pinnacle. There is no single pair, or even two pair, of tower product on the market today that can compete with that combo.
Old    Bryce Pool (bryce2320)      Join Date: May 2012       02-01-2014, 9:59 AM Reply   
No distortion at 685 watts? I bet it is ridiculous!
Old    Ryan (ryanw209)      Join Date: Jan 2010       02-01-2014, 10:15 AM Reply   
David - wouldn't a pair of 410's powered by an SD4 be more powerful?
Old    Jason (corerider)      Join Date: May 2008       02-01-2014, 2:26 PM Reply   
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One pair of Rev410s driven by an SD2. You've reached the pinnacle. There is no single pair, or even two pair, of tower product on the market today that can compete with that combo.
So 1 set of Rev410s on an SD2 stereo @ 4 ohm is 400 x 2,
1 set of Rev 410s on an SD4 bridged mono @ 4 ohm is 685 x 2... (Ideal IMHO)

Did you mean 1 SD2 per Rev410 pod? 1250 x 1 @ 4ohm That would be ludicrous!!!
Old    Tim (dezul)      Join Date: Jul 2012       02-01-2014, 3:02 PM Reply   
From real world experience, my boat was the only one in the tie up over the summer with Rev 10s, needless to say they were the loudest on the lake and it keeps people off of your boat. They are so loud no one wants to be standing on the swim deck. Other tie ups turn their heads when the music gets cranked.

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Old    David (DavidAnalog)      Join Date: Sep 2013       02-01-2014, 5:15 PM Reply   
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So 1 set of Rev410s on an SD2 stereo @ 4 ohm is 400 x 2,
1 set of Rev 410s on an SD4 bridged mono @ 4 ohm is 685 x 2... (Ideal IMHO)

Did you mean 1 SD2 per Rev410 pod? 1250 x 1 @ 4ohm That would be ludicrous!!!
My typo. I meant the single bridged SD4 exactly like superair posted he was running.

Yes, 1250 watts per Rev410 would be excessive at 625 watts per each 10-inch driver. How many subwoofers with a 2-inch voice coil would you trust driven by 625 watts. I would never recommend that much power. On the other hand, personally I could safely run that much because I would benefit from the peak power without ever coming close to the continuous power.
Old    Daniel (cowwboy)      Join Date: Jul 2008       02-02-2014, 6:08 PM Reply   
Here is mine, I have a arc ks300.2 per 410.
They sound amazing and the amps aren't running hard at all.
Right now there is a guy selling two 300.2's for pretty cheap on Ebay.
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