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Old    Detox (bass10after)      Join Date: Feb 2010       11-03-2014, 1:47 AM Reply   
now that the t23 has been announced does anyone have pics of the interior/exterior that they can share? 23'6" sounds like the perfect sized boat to me, I think this boat is going to be a home run.
Old    Brit Rider (brit_rider)      Join Date: May 2004       11-03-2014, 5:46 AM Reply   
It's not much but here's some initial shots from the National dealer meeting.

Initial thoughts are that this thing is going to steal a lot of sales. The 23' boat sector is easily the biggest, and this option is going to make a lot of sense to a lot of people.
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Old    Matt H (rockballer)      Join Date: Jun 2014       11-03-2014, 6:58 AM Reply   
Still has the ugliest rack in the industry... and it's an improvement from last years
Old    Justin Harrelson (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       11-03-2014, 7:17 AM Reply   
I think it is a really good looking boat. Anyone know the MSRP on it?
Old    Bryce (brycejb328)      Join Date: Aug 2009       11-03-2014, 7:46 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockballer View Post
Still has the ugliest rack in the industry... and it's an improvement from last years
Pictures look a little blurry to me to start accurately judging the rack
Old    Jordan Maxymek (Jmaxymek)      Join Date: Feb 2012       11-03-2014, 7:49 AM Reply   
Somebody is going to say it so I may as well bite the bullet.... That boat looks like an SC. Maybe the interior and other details say otherwise but right now nothing screams "special" to me.
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-03-2014, 8:24 AM Reply   
My initial opinions are I agree this will be a home run. A little surprised however that there is now a t-22 and t-23... Ill bet this replaces the t-22 as the new a22 uses the old t-22 hull. It would seem logical to me to have t-21 and t-23 and then a20, 22, 24... boat looks really good though. I still don't love the new tower but its not horrible.
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-03-2014, 8:35 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by superair502 View Post
My initial opinions are I agree this will be a home run. A little surprised however that there is now a t-22 and t-23... Ill bet this replaces the t-22 as the new a22 uses the old t-22 hull. It would seem logical to me to have t-21 and t-23 and then a20, 22, 24... boat looks really good though. I still don't love the new tower but its not horrible.
I don't think the t22 is going anywhere.

Malibu has a 22 VLX and a 23 LSV as well, so it seems that they believe they've found the sweet spot.
Old    Brit Rider (brit_rider)      Join Date: May 2004       11-03-2014, 9:19 AM Reply   
There is still a pretty good difference between a 22 and 23' boat so I'm sure they will keep that. Look at MC, they have way more boats treading on each others toes.

The racks on that boat are the standard racks, the spinners are a lot nicer but then they are more money... I kind of like the idea of an Axis without a stack of options as the more you spend on the extras, the more you may as well have bought a Malibu!
Old    Steven (scuba_steve)      Join Date: Oct 2013       11-03-2014, 9:41 AM Reply   
The T22 is still in the lineup and the 2015 Hull on the A22 is NOT the 2014 T22 hull. Yes, they redesigned the A22 hull to work better with SurfGate and some of that design is from the success of the T22 but also the A24.

Anyone ever look at the SurfGate angles on the 2014 A22 compared the the A24/T22?

The Axis line now has 5 boats in the family, A series 20, 22, 24 and T series 22, 23.


I'm sure some official interior shots will be released in the next few days but for now they are all over Instagram. Check the hashtags "T23" "axiswake" and "axiswakeboats". All the dealers and attendees at the national dealer meeting are posting shots.


Here is a quick video that's shows the boat.

http://instagram.com/p/u8cAsHlLXe/
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-03-2014, 10:00 AM Reply   
Yea I guess that makes sense. Now My dilemma will be to get another A24 or T23?? The interior on the A24 and A20 are still not updated like all the other models however...
Old    Eric (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       11-03-2014, 12:14 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by brit_rider View Post
There is still a pretty good difference between a 22 and 23' boat so I'm sure they will keep that. Look at MC, they have way more boats treading on each others toes.
I saw the similar comment in the X23 thread as well, and I guess I don't understand what you are talking about....... Way more boats? Do you mean 1 more?

MC-
1-20'er (now that the X2 is going away)
1-21'er
1-22'er
2-23'ers
2-24'ers
1-25'er

Malibu-
2-20'ers
2-22'er
1-23'er
1-24'er
1-25'er

Nautique-
1-20'er
2-21'ers
2-23'ers
1-25er

Centurion has 6 models (Not counting the 2 kite pullers), axis has 5, Tige has 7...... Basically, MC overlaps the 24' segment with the XStar. The rest of the line, is as even as any of the others.
Old    Steven (scuba_steve)      Join Date: Oct 2013       11-03-2014, 2:51 PM Reply   
Im uploading them to photobucket now to post them directly on here, but here is a link to the California Marine Sports facebook album on the 2015 A22. All picture are from today's dealer meeting in San Diego.

https://m.facebook.com/calmarinespor...fid=9&_rdr#_=_


Biggest changes!

Deeper storage like the A24 the storage walls are carpet lined.
Gelcoat seat bases.
Obviously the tower and the surf Bimini
Open walkthrough to the bow


Should have some T23 pictures in a few mins
Old    Steven (scuba_steve)      Join Date: Oct 2013       11-03-2014, 2:56 PM Reply   
https://m.facebook.com/calmarinespor.../?ref=bookmark

Working on getting them to photobucket and directly posting them but here is a link to an album with interior pictures of the T23 at the dealer meeting.

Any questions, let me know and I'll do my best to get them answered
Old    Steven (scuba_steve)      Join Date: Oct 2013       11-03-2014, 3:09 PM Reply   
2015 Axis T23 from the San Diego national dealer meeting













More can be found at the California Marine Sports facebook page.
Old    Steven (scuba_steve)      Join Date: Oct 2013       11-03-2014, 3:16 PM Reply   
The 2015 Axis A22 from the San Diego national dealer meeting.
















Old    Steven (scuba_steve)      Join Date: Oct 2013       11-03-2014, 3:20 PM Reply   
Couple more of the T23





Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-03-2014, 3:23 PM Reply   
Are they going to release a video like they did with the other models?
Old    Darren Yearsley (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-03-2014, 3:26 PM Reply   
That dash sure got hit with the ugly stick
Old    Killer52 (killer52)      Join Date: Aug 2009       11-03-2014, 4:50 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by ralph View Post
That dash sure got hit with the ugly stick
The only thing uglier than the dash is the tower. Yikes.
Actually, when you add in the "wind shield" it makes three great reasons to steer clear.
Old    A.J. West (you_da_man)      Join Date: Sep 2009       11-03-2014, 5:50 PM Reply   
The looks/lines of the Axis, whether it be the A or T series isn't for everyone BUT apparently a lot of people are liking them because they are probably the fastest growing wakeboat company out there in the 6 years they've existed. Surpassing other companies that have been around for decades and they will continue to gain more of a percentage of total sales for a while. I can find a couple models from every manufacturer that I'd gladly own but there's no denying Axis is doing something right.
Old    Swatguy (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       11-03-2014, 8:17 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockballer View Post
Still has the ugliest rack in the industry... and it's an improvement from last years
Pretty sure by rack he means tower.

I personally love the Axis lines, wakes and performance of the T22. Wasn't exactly sold on the A series. However they have quickly gone from a budget boat to "another boat line". I don't even see the term budget boat in any production at the moment. being within 10k of a big 3 boat doesn't exactly scream budget. I like that rig tho. Looks sharp. Simple is sometimes better.
Old    Randy Murray (wakeripper)      Join Date: Oct 2002       11-03-2014, 8:24 PM Reply   
Im a big fan of the T23, the interior on the boat is nicer with the additional accent pieces on the upholstery. Im also a big fan of the 23 LSV wake/wave so im curious to see what the wake is like on the T23 Nice addition to the lineup if you ask me
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-04-2014, 10:19 AM Reply   
Another new boat on the market and another group of haters and humpers.

I like it, these Axis boats just keep getting better and better.
Old    Rance Taylor (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       11-04-2014, 10:20 AM Reply   
Great looking boat and I'm a fan!! Only gripes are Axis needs to keep pricing in check and up their warranty
Old    RB (boardman74)      Join Date: Jul 2012       11-04-2014, 11:22 AM Reply   
^^^^I think the last 2 posts hit the nail on the head. Axis has upped there game and keep getting nicer and better.

Issue then is the price keeps going up and up. Like some have said these are really no longer budget boats. I mean they aren't MC/Nautique pricing by any means but they are creeping up year by year. I still think with prices going up like they are at some point the market has to tank like the housing market did. Other genre's of boats have not seen the rapid price increases tow boats have, IMO at some point the price bubble has to pop.
Old    Darren Lamont (83Starsnstripes)      Join Date: Jul 2013       11-05-2014, 4:58 PM Reply   
This boat is a Game Changer!! Sorry, I had to.

Got a chance to ride in the boat and it's pretty sweet. Surf wake is no joke, too rough to really get a good idea of the wakeboard wake but it looked good. The 410hp motor will be enough for most owners but if you are going to really sac out the boat, I'd go 450hp or more. This is a big boat.
Ride was smooth and quiet. Typical Malibu handling, best in the biz. I was very impressed but "the truth is on the water".
Old    Brad Riddick (riddick)      Join Date: Jan 2010       11-05-2014, 5:51 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by you_da_man View Post
The looks/lines of the Axis, whether it be the A or T series isn't for everyone BUT apparently a lot of people are liking them because they are probably the fastest growing wakeboat company out there in the 6 years they've existed. Surpassing other companies that have been around for decades and they will continue to gain more of a percentage of total sales for a while. I can find a couple models from every manufacturer that I'd gladly own but there's no denying Axis is doing something right.
Most of the other companies are probably worried about a brand cannibalization. If I were a manufacturer that made 10-20 boats a week, I wouldn't want to share my dealer network or line with another brand (of the same niche market) that could potentially take up the build spots and/or market share from my premier brand.

Malibu is now public, so it will be interesting to see how this unfolds over the next 6 years.
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-05-2014, 9:34 PM Reply   
I'm digging this boat. I was able to spend some time on this boat on Tuesday and was blown away. Here is my take:

350 PCM Monsoon or a 450 PCM Monsoon. I would skip the 410 PCM Monsoon all together because of the gear ratio. 350 PCM Monsoon gets the 1:72:1 ratio, while the 410 PCM Monsoon gets the 1:48:1 gear ratio. The 350 PCM Monsoon will have a higher torque curve and will handle heavy weight just fine. Your altitude is the real question, but here in the Willamette Valley, the PCM 350 Monsoon will be more than plenty. The only benefit that the 410 PCM Monsoon has on the 350 PCM Monsoon is the top end speed.

350 PCM Monsoon (1:72:1) or 450 PCM Monsoon (1:72:1) for us.

SPECS:
23' 5". 102" Beam. #4200. 67 Gallon Gas Tank.

PHOTOS:
Axis Wake Research T23. by Bucky Images, on Flickr
Axis Wake Research T23. by Bucky Images, on Flickr
Axis Wake Research T23. by Bucky Images, on Flickf
Axis Wake Research T23. by Bucky Images, on Flickr

As always, the best way is to see, drive, and load it up yourself. #thetruthisonthewater

@upperleftwake

Last edited by MCObray; 11-05-2014 at 9:42 PM.
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       11-05-2014, 10:15 PM Reply   
Few more pics:
Axis Wake Research T23. by Bucky Images, on Flickr
Axis Wake Research T23. by Bucky Images, on Flickr
Old    Preston (Bamabonners)      Join Date: Jul 2011       11-05-2014, 10:27 PM Reply   
. nevermind
Old    Detox (bass10after)      Join Date: Feb 2010       11-06-2014, 12:39 AM Reply   
whats the real cost of one of these... not the msrp. real world this could be yours for x amount of dollars?
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-06-2014, 7:03 AM Reply   
I'll give a wild guess of minimum high 60s (350 / basic trailer / very minimal options) all the way up to low 80s for a loaded boat with 450 / wetsounds / blinged trailer. <--- before sales tax.
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       11-06-2014, 7:33 AM Reply   
The T22 is a 60-69k boat in most cases. The T23 will likely be a 70-79k boat (all depends on the options you choose). Probably would end up being a few thousand less than an A24 with the same options.
Old    Mase (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-07-2014, 2:54 PM Reply   
Video is up on the site. http://www.axiswake.com/boats/axis/t23.html
Old    A.J. West (you_da_man)      Join Date: Sep 2009       11-07-2014, 4:58 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by bass10after View Post
whats the real cost of one of these... not the msrp. real world this could be yours for x amount of dollars?
Impossible question to answer and be specific without knowing your options and also depends on how good you are at negotiating and how bad a dealer wants to make a sale. You're not going to get "real cost" until you yourself go into to your dealer and do some real negotiating.

Last edited by you_da_man; 11-07-2014 at 5:02 PM.

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