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Old    Danny Pacini (dp513)      Join Date: Jul 2011       01-31-2014, 9:56 AM Reply   
Someone on here has gotta know if it'll happen or not lol
Old    J Lemieux (JCat)      Join Date: Nov 2013       01-31-2014, 10:35 AM Reply   
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I mean from what I've been told the fresh water pushes against the salt water. Varies with low tide high tide. But if there is less fresh water to fill the delta won't the salt water push farther up to compensate.
Fresh water is less dense than salt water, and will float on top.
The amount of fresh water in the delta has to be adequate so that the depth is enough to keep our intakes above the brackish water. It will come down to how much fresh water flows down the main Sacramento river. As low as the gold country reservoirs are, we can't count on much coming down the San Juaquin and American river watersheds.
Old     (Bam6961)      Join Date: Apr 2011       01-31-2014, 10:44 AM Reply   
http://www.ccwater.com/salinity/Hist...rt-2010Feb.pdf - is from 1994-2005 data on where salinity reaches in certain months of the year. starts on page 29 and the graph is on pg33.

their starting point was crockett, ca they would see how far in miles salinity would travel. looks like it would reach Antioch in the months on august, july, october, november, and december. so roughly 25miles from crockett... salinity didnt really touch rio vista. which makes sense because there is greater flow from the the sac river than the san joaquin due to the pumps. this picture should explain it. here is the link of the website i got it from

http://mavensnotebook.com/dpg/images...outh_Delta.jpg
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Old    Brandon (Gnargnar)      Join Date: Aug 2012       01-31-2014, 2:11 PM Reply   
Always wondered that, nice job B
Old    Ryan (ryanw209)      Join Date: Jan 2010       02-01-2014, 9:42 AM Reply   
I just watched that youtube link that someone posted earlier about the drought of 76-77 and it shows them putting in temporary rock dams to keep the saltwater from backing up the delta. As others have stated basically the less the flow from the lakes the further the salt water will come up the delta.
Old    Hey, You scratched my anchor! (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       02-01-2014, 12:04 PM Reply   
They put those rock dams in and out every year. See delta mendota canal and California aqueduct if you want to see the delta water going south.
Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       02-01-2014, 1:24 PM Reply   
They announced on our local weather news broadcast we would need three storms a week to roll through nor-cal to get out the drought by summer. With a sunny 10 day forecast again its looking like the drought is not coming to an end soon. Good news is historically after this type of weather pattern the following years have been very wet and got us out of the drought.
Old     (cheesesteak)      Join Date: Aug 2013       02-01-2014, 6:40 PM Reply   
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I mean from what I've been told the fresh water pushes against the salt water. Varies with low tide high tide. But if there is less fresh water to fill the delta won't the salt water push farther up to compensate.
Here's a map showing historic salt water intrusion into the Delta prior to the construction of the CVP and SWP.
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Old    Ryan (ryanw209)      Join Date: Jan 2010       02-02-2014, 10:40 AM Reply   
I was checking the weather last night and there was a weather alert with all the records California has broken so far this year. I thought it would be informational for those that are reading this forum and don't live here. There was more but it was just listing the previous records and the day they were broke. On the plus side it's RAINING TODAY!!!!!!
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Old    Miguel (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-04-2014, 2:29 PM Reply   
what we'll be dealing with...look at 2002.
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Old    Hey, You scratched my anchor! (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       02-04-2014, 8:37 PM Reply   
If the gov is allowed to put the sacramento river in two 40 foot diameter pipes at freeport the salt will come in further than ever before. Anyone with half a brain should be able to figure that out.
Old    Onthe Creek (onthecreek)      Join Date: Apr 2013       02-05-2014, 7:15 AM Reply   
all of the white is (was) snow


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Old    Eric B (chillaxin)      Join Date: Jun 2012       02-05-2014, 8:43 PM Reply   
Looks like NorCal has some relief coming. Supposed to start raining and snowing like crazy. I saw on the news that Tahoe could get over 6' of snow by Sunday. Hopefully it helps you guys out.
Old    Brandon (Gnargnar)      Join Date: Aug 2012       02-05-2014, 8:50 PM Reply   
If be very surprised if then mountains get 6 feet, 3-4 tho is still gonna be money. Just read this from NOAA, especially the end
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Old    Hey, You scratched my anchor! (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       02-06-2014, 11:15 AM Reply   
1 inch rain = 1 foot of snow.
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       02-06-2014, 2:31 PM Reply   
Going to Tahoe Sunday @ 4am to ride and Monday! ****in stoked!
Old    Miguel (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-06-2014, 3:19 PM Reply   
^^^Headed up tonight. NO return date in the horizon
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Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       02-06-2014, 3:24 PM Reply   
Nice! Sat gonna be wind hold so gonna get my overtime real quick. Going home now to wax 2 of my boards especially my fish. If you don't know google it! Awesome board.
Old    Miguel (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-06-2014, 3:43 PM Reply   
Where you riding Sun?
Im hitting Heavenly tomorrow, thinking Nstar sat, Kirkwood Sunday....
Back to Heavenly Mon...
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       02-06-2014, 3:52 PM Reply   
Kirkwood Sunday heavenly Monday probably. Always get comped at Harvey's. so be right there. Like to firebreak if enough snow is there
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       02-06-2014, 3:52 PM Reply   
Northstar been getting shut out.
Old    Miguel (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006       02-06-2014, 5:52 PM Reply   
Word
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       02-06-2014, 5:54 PM Reply   
snow level over the weekend is going to be 7500-8000. I wouldn't spend money anywhere lower than kirkwood unless you like riding in the rain.
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       02-06-2014, 6:07 PM Reply   
Money? Season pass!!but ya definently could be kirkwood 2 in a row.
Old    Hey, You scratched my anchor! (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       02-07-2014, 3:56 PM Reply   
Pineapple Express is delivering
Old    Brandon (Gnargnar)      Join Date: Aug 2012       02-10-2014, 4:02 PM Reply   
I stand corrected, Sierra at Tahoe got 74"
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       02-11-2014, 5:42 AM Reply   
Kirkwood yesterday =epic
Old    Adam (azeus17)      Join Date: Feb 2010       02-14-2014, 5:18 AM Reply   
Sucks for you guys. We are having the exact opposite in western MI. The lake I live on has been frozen enough to walk on since Thanksgiving and we have had snow cover on the ground since about that time as well with about 20" or so right now. Seems to snow at least some every day with at least one 6"+ storm per week and the average high for January I bet is somewhere in the teens. I am a winter sports guy and I still think I have had enough.
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       02-14-2014, 11:24 AM Reply   
We are good storm rolling through one after another now. Snow pack building up. Love it.
Old    Cory D (cadunkle)      Join Date: Jul 2009       02-16-2014, 12:03 PM Reply   
Insane how low your reservoirs are out West. I see the pics but it's still hard to imagine. Most of my riding is on a tidal river, so it's up 6' and down 6' every day but that's it. A little higher or lower depending on rain but even the tidal swing seems like a lot to me compared to growing up spending summers on a lake that lost maybe 1' at most over a season and even dry years weren't a lot lower. East coast is very different, and personally I wish we could send some of this rain and snow your way because it's getting old! Here we can't use our boats as much as we'd like because it rains every other weekend (with associated wind) or it's too damn cold half the year and out West the weather is great but there's no water.
Old     (cheesesteak)      Join Date: Aug 2013       02-16-2014, 2:26 PM Reply   
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Insane how low your reservoirs are out West. I see the pics but it's still hard to imagine. Most of my riding is on a tidal river, so it's up 6' and down 6' every day but that's it. A little higher or lower depending on rain but even the tidal swing seems like a lot to me compared to growing up spending summers on a lake that lost maybe 1' at most over a season and even dry years weren't a lot lower. East coast is very different, and personally I wish we could send some of this rain and snow your way because it's getting old! Here we can't use our boats as much as we'd like because it rains every other weekend (with associated wind) or it's too damn cold half the year and out West the weather is great but there's no water.
Folsom Reservoir is currently 97' below its maximum water elevation. Until this most recent storm - it was down 130 feet. And typically, around this time of year, they are making flood releases to maintain the flood cushion in the reservoir. I was hiking the lake this morning - the entire dam is out of the water - you can see where the concrete meets the dirt.
Old     (kx250frider617)      Join Date: Aug 2013       02-16-2014, 2:31 PM Reply   
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Folsom Reservoir is currently 97' below its maximum water elevation. Until this most recent storm - it was down 130 feet. And typically, around this time of year, they are making flood releases to maintain the flood cushion in the reservoir. I was hiking the lake this morning - the entire dam is out of the water - you can see where the concrete meets the dirt.
Please post pics next time. This stuff is crazy to see. I wish there were new reservoirs being made with before and after pics. Its also crazy knowing that these bodies should't even be there in the first place.
Old     (cheesesteak)      Join Date: Aug 2013       02-17-2014, 6:58 AM Reply   
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Please post pics next time. This stuff is crazy to see. I wish there were new reservoirs being made with before and after pics. Its also crazy knowing that these bodies should't even be there in the first place.
Here are recent pic I found.
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Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       02-18-2014, 4:59 PM Reply   
That picture of Folsom Dam is disturbing, and to rub salt in the wound, the 10 day forecast is bone dry and we already in mid February. We have had one good storm in the last 15 months, time is running out! unless we have a record breaking March and April unfortunately a severe drought will be with us this summer.
Old    J.P. (JPizzle)      Join Date: Mar 2012       02-19-2014, 1:33 PM Reply   
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Old    Brandon (Gnargnar)      Join Date: Aug 2012       02-19-2014, 1:46 PM Reply   
Another few rainy days coming next weds thurs fri
Old    Steve Lackey (steves1967)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-20-2014, 8:42 PM Reply   
New Melones isn't even going to open their marina this year, sounds like the lake will be 5mph max. Our local water hole, Woodward Reservior just announced today that they will more than likely close to the public for the spring/summer due to low water.... The delta is gonna be packed with idiots this year!!!
Old    Ken W (kenteck)      Join Date: Jan 2005       02-21-2014, 4:17 PM Reply   
Sorry to hear about all this bad news down south and here I sit in my office wondering what to do this weekend because its finally going to be sunny, nothing but rain, rain and more rain for the past few weeks, then all the snow we had up here in the NW before that in town, the mountains got a pounding of snow and the rivers here are getting high. To bad there wasnt some sort of pipeline from the NW to the south... lol, Its not like we would miss the water up here..
Old    Kirk (kirk)      Join Date: May 2003       02-21-2014, 6:24 PM Reply   
Ken, actually Eastern Wa was suffering from lack of snow and rain until this past couple weeks. The snow pack was down something like 45% until the last recent storms hit...
Old    Cory D (cadunkle)      Join Date: Jul 2009       02-26-2014, 8:56 AM Reply   
Interesting article today...

The Horrific California Drought
Old    James Proctor (allzway)      Join Date: Feb 2014       02-26-2014, 11:43 AM Reply   
[QUOTE=Pad1Tai;1857880]Lake Travis, Texas

Pretty sad.............

[QUOTE]

I went out to Lake Travis last summer while at a Dell school just to see the lake after I had heard a lot about how low it was I simply couldn't believe it. I used to ride my JetSki there a lot while in college in the early 90's and did some scuba diving out there.

I took a couple of pics of one of the marina's.

Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       02-26-2014, 12:18 PM Reply   
Great time to do work to your docks.
Old    Mike (slowwwflowww)      Join Date: Mar 2011       02-28-2014, 1:26 PM Reply   
Looks like Cali is finally getting the rain they need so bad.
Old    "G" (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-28-2014, 2:37 PM Reply   
The News had a Picture that was taken Last year at this time and then another one from the same location you could see where water normally sits. the water was all the way up to the Tree line last year
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Old    Derek (camassanger)      Join Date: Oct 2009       02-28-2014, 3:27 PM Reply   
Which lake is that Grant? Shasta?
Old    "G" (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       02-28-2014, 4:32 PM Reply   
lake Orville
Sorry I should have posted it in the photo
Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       03-01-2014, 9:05 PM Reply   
Finally some winter weather in the Sierras! Coming back from Northstar this evening, spent two days up there, great snow right now at 6000'+. Even Boreal got a good dose of it over the past couple days. If you ski, get up there!
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Old    Dave Rittiman (Davewfo)      Join Date: Apr 2013       03-12-2014, 12:23 AM Reply   
Folsom Lake hit the 400 feet mark today that takes off the 5 MPH limit. The lake filled 40 feet in just over a month. http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/q...23&span=30days



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Old     (moto817)      Join Date: Jan 2011       03-21-2014, 10:48 PM Reply   
A shot of the glory hole and dam at Lake Berryessa yesterday. Not too bad considering the lack of rain.
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Old    Eric Nelson (nelson)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-24-2014, 7:34 AM Reply   
Shasta yesterday.
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Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       03-24-2014, 7:48 AM Reply   
Shasta is 105' down right now, question is how will it be in July? When do they typically start releasing water? and the big question will be how much are they going to release this year in comparison to other years?
Old    Eric Nelson (nelson)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-24-2014, 7:58 AM Reply   
It's going to be low for sure come July. Still will be plenty of water in the main body but really limits what ramps you can use.
Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       03-24-2014, 8:17 AM Reply   
We have a houseboat reserved for July 13-20, still on the fence about paying the full balance or cancelling and rolling deposit over until next year. We typically launch from Silverthorne, its a lot of money to pay for a sub par vacation. I have never been on the lake when its been below 75', good news is it looks like Redding is going to get some more rain over the next week.
Old    Tracy F (tfergie23)      Join Date: Apr 2014       04-24-2014, 9:00 AM Reply   
JRod, Lake San Antonio pics are so sad :-( I know Naci is very low too but is it still ride-able or not?
Old    FENCE SENCE (fence_sence)      Join Date: Jul 2008       04-24-2014, 12:27 PM Reply   
I've already canceled my Shasta trip. We usually camp up at Antlers. At 80' down, they move the marina down to Sugarloaf. That would be a 10-15min ride in the truck just to get to the boat. I think at 150' down, the Sac. arm is 15mph all the way out. There's another what, 30-40 min boat ride just to get to open water? Then another 15-30 min ride to hopefully find some smooth water? No thanks.
Old    Darrin (Cabledog)      Join Date: Dec 2013       04-24-2014, 12:45 PM Reply   
^^^ Cancelled ours too. Jones Valley wouldn't budge on the price. Just not worth it to pay full price for the conditions. I can take 2 trips to Mexico for one Shasta trip. Good news for locals is Whiskytown is never down more than 10ft (at least in the 30 years i lived there) but its a lot smaller. Still a nice lake.
Old    Eric Nelson (nelson)      Join Date: Jan 2009       04-24-2014, 1:11 PM Reply   
The ramps down by sugarloaf are a mess also. Not bad this time of year with little traffic, but Memorial weekend is going to be a zoo. Talked with a Ranger last weekend he said by around July 4th Shasta will be 135' to 140' down already. It will be a combo of 5mph and no ski area's till you reach the main body. Antlers has been working on the pilings for there docks across from Sugarloaf for awhile now they are still only in 50' of water so I wonder how long they will stay in if the ranger was correct with the
lake levels.
Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       04-25-2014, 11:21 AM Reply   
Another Shasta cancel here, we were booked for mid July. Water level looks like 135-140' down during this time. Nobody in our group felt good about this, so we are rolling deposit for 2015. Hope we get some good rain and snow for next summer.
Old    Tracy F (tfergie23)      Join Date: Apr 2014       05-07-2014, 3:30 PM Reply   
How is Nacimiento looking for riding now? I talked to someone there and it sounds like it's low but still usable...is that true? Thanks!
Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       05-07-2014, 3:57 PM Reply   
At 21% I would say that is about dried up.

http://www.lakenacimientolive.com/In...ter-level.html
Old    Tracy F (tfergie23)      Join Date: Apr 2014       05-07-2014, 4:36 PM Reply   
That sucks :-( Has anyone been out there this year? Any other options in Central/So Cal that are half way decent?

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