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Old    Steve Malibu (MystiikVLX)      Join Date: Jul 2014       10-10-2016, 2:39 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by KSride View Post
Yes I could tell a difference, The blue Pill felt a good deal softer than I remember my S4 being but the Parks is definitely softer. I didn't mind the landings of the blue pill but the cambers landings are so soft.
Depending on weather, I'm hoping to do a side by side comparison of the space blanket and the Pill. I'd love to try a Response. With my back, I really want something that lands softer and is a consistent pop.
Old    Nick Norton (NewRevNorton)      Join Date: Oct 2016       10-10-2016, 7:53 PM Reply   
I was out on a local lake over the weekend with some friends and forgot to grab my HL State 2.0 and vest before we left. I figured I would use my friends Byerly AR1 but his HL Index bindings were way too big. I was looking to get some good moldable bindings to replace my HL Remix bindings on my State 2.0 anyway so we ran over to a local pro shop to browse around. I scooped up a vest and, after looking at prices for good bindings at the shop, I figured I would just tough it out over the rest of the weekend. The price for the Ronix One bindings was at retail for $510 and he said he would take $390. I had been keeping my eyes open online at the same binding for $299. He brought the price down to $260 so I bought them. I really liked the high metallic coat on a Ronix Bandwagon ATR that they had but they had it at retail for $639. I talked to the salesperson and he got the price down to $290 so I bought the board, bindings, and a vest. I hated to purchase a whole new setup and I had no idea that the camber boards were such a touchy subject but I needed something affordable just to be comfortable out on the water for the weekend. I figured the camber style would serve as a good backup and I would now have a good continuous, 3 stage, and camber now. I have an extensive background with snowboarding, skateboarding, and surfing so I was really excited to get this thing on the water.

We rushed back to the boat and hit the water. I did not really notice a difference in my weight distribution or stance but the board felt very playful. It was a good playful feeling too. It would slide around when you wanted it too but it was not sloppy and loose like the Slingshot Choice was. The edge did not dig as well as the Byerly AR1 or the HL State 2.0 but it felt strong and dug in plenty while attacking the wake. I did notice an excessive amount of "drag" as everyone else has mentioned. The board felt much slower than any of the others that I have been on. You would think that the drag would wear you out quickly but I really felt relaxed and comfortable. This might be from the more neutral stance but as I said earlier, I didnt notice any drastic change in my stance. Switch riding was a breeze with this board too. I am still pretty shaky when riding switch but this thing felt the most comfortable switch out of any other boards that I have been on. Rough water riding is one of the things that I noticed immediately and nobody else has really mentioned. I assume it is because of the greater contact surface on the water, but I could really feel the "choppy" water underneath me. This was great in smooth water because my launches were very solid and very vertical, but made it pretty frustrating once we did some riding in rougher water.

One of the best ways I can describe it is to compare longboarding and shortboarding on a skateboard. Longboards are built to go fast and carve quickly at higher speeds while shortboards are built for huge pop and tricks at lower speeds. You would never see a rider hop on a shortboard to shred a long hill and you would never see a rider take his longboard for a run at the skatepark. So it is all about the type of rider you are or what type of riding you are wanting to do. I will say that the board that seems to do everything well is the Byerly AR1. That board is just as fast and stable as the State 2.0 but launches a lot like the Bandwagon. I can really dial in the W2W jumps or launch into the flats with it. It has been a blast to ride this year.

I am hoping that I will get the board to react and ride a bit faster as I get used to it but I really enjoyed the board for a lot of things. I have enjoyed reading about the complexity of the camber boards through this discussion.
Old    Steve Malibu (MystiikVLX)      Join Date: Jul 2014       10-17-2016, 11:58 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by KSride View Post
After riding this summer on a camber I was to share my thoughts and ask for some advice:
I picked up a 2014 Parks Modello last Fall after hurting my knee last July and looking for something a little easier on my knee moving forward, I was looking at the slingshot blue pill and Watson hybrid and stumbled upon the Parks at a crazy low price. ( I had been riding a LF S4 the prior 3 years)

It took me several runs to get used to the camber ride and especially figuring out how to pop the board, fairly immediately I noticed that I had more control in the air and felt much more balanced during all riding.

Fast forward to this weekend when I rode my cousins 2015 Blue Pill and I noticed several things I dislike about the parks:

The easiest thing to notice was the glide speed, I knew the parks was slow but the Blue Pill felt effortless to maintain speed on compared to the Parks, I also felt like the pill was much easier to get big pop on and I felt like I was going much bigger with less effort. On my Parks I still struggle to get consistent pop, When I get it right the board gives a massive pop but overall most of the time I fail to achieve that. I wonder if the Parks is simply beyond my skill level.

I loved the Blue Pill, but I do like the control and balance that Camber offers, I guess what I would like input on is whether or not my struggle to find consistency is a camber vs traditional rocker, or would I find better luck on the Space Blanket? I know the Space Blanket would feel less like I'm dragging an anchor.
Rode both the PIll and the Space Blanket. I had the same experience as you. The pill felt effortless. I really like the toeside approaches on the Pill, for some reason- my poor technique I'm sure- the Space Blanket feels like I slow down and dig in as I'm turning into the wake. The pill just glides. I feel like I'm more consistent with the Pill.

Looks like I'm gonna stick with the Pill.
Old    Mason Stewart (KSride)      Join Date: Oct 2015       10-17-2016, 12:45 PM Reply   
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Rode both the PIll and the Space Blanket. I had the same experience as you. The pill felt effortless. I really like the toeside approaches on the Pill, for some reason- my poor technique I'm sure- the Space Blanket feels like I slow down and dig in as I'm turning into the wake. The pill just glides. I feel like I'm more consistent with the Pill.

Looks like I'm gonna stick with the Pill.
Bummer, I was hoping to hear the Space Blanket compared better than my Parks. Looks like I may grab the Pill this offseason.
Old    Marc Robinson (Down2Ride)      Join Date: Aug 2011       10-21-2016, 7:39 AM Reply   
Ok. For the speed comparison. I mostly ride a 2013 Code 22 (139), but bought a 2015 Kruz Bio last year. Liked the speed of the Kruz last year as it seemed pretty fast, but broke my leg (fibula) riding very early this season. Needless to say, I didn't get to ride for a while. When I got back behind the boat, the Kruz felt very fast to me, so I switched back to the Code 22. Feels much better while getting back used to riding. How would the Space Blanket, Parks, and Bandwagon compare to the 2013 Code 22 as far as glide speed? I am also thinking of going with a larger board. Not huge, but maybe a 142-143. I have an extensive background in skateboarding, an am curious about camber being more suitable to my riding style. I'm just doing basic W2W airs and getting use to surface spins and switch again. My biggest obstacle right now is my head. I missed a lot of work due to surgeries last year and early this year, so my mind is getting in the way of my progression. Not worried about getting hurt...but missing work is huge with a newborn in the house. I'm 6' tall and 180-185 lbs. Any input is appreciated.
Old    Bill Montanye (bill)      Join Date: Feb 2001       10-22-2016, 10:07 AM Reply   
how do you think these cambers ride on Kickers and rails at the park? if the SB fails at the boat I might try it finless at the park but not sure it will do well at the park..

thoughts?
Old    Eric Kingen (ekingen)      Join Date: Oct 2016       11-01-2016, 6:57 AM Reply   
[QUOTE= Rough water riding is one of the things that I noticed immediately and nobody else has really mentioned. I assume it is because of the greater contact surface on the water, but I could really feel the "choppy" water underneath me. This was great in smooth water because my launches were very solid and very vertical, but made it pretty frustrating once we did some riding in rougher water.
[/QUOTE]

Has anyone else noticed that the camber boards are worse on choppy water? I am considering buying a Ronix Parks Air Core 2, but at the lake we usually ride at, we are almost always dealing with some wind and boat chop, so I'm hesitant to pull the trigger if this has any merit. I have been riding a slingshot recoil and really liked it, but I broke it this last summer an was looking for something different. Love the idea of riding more front foot heavy, getting consistent straight up pop, and dialing in my W2W stuff.
Old    C D (stxdeadI)      Join Date: Oct 2016       11-01-2016, 7:59 AM Reply   
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how do you think these cambers ride on Kickers and rails at the park? if the SB fails at the boat I might try it finless at the park but not sure it will do well at the park..

thoughts?
From what I've read it's less than ideal at the parks
Old    Drew Longshore (DrewLongshore)      Join Date: Oct 2016       11-01-2016, 2:38 PM Reply   
I ride my SpaceBlanket mainly at the cable park but some boat as well. Hands down my favorite board I have rode
Old    Drew Longshore (DrewLongshore)      Join Date: Oct 2016       11-01-2016, 2:41 PM Reply   
Erik Ruck had his SB at the cable park one day and he was nice enough to let me take some laps on it. The camber creating such a flat spot on the bottom really locks it into rails. I get crazy air off kickers as well, I've been beating on the board all summer long and it's still running strong.
Old    Aaron Snyder (snyderaaron)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-02-2016, 8:49 PM Reply   


Just bought this badboy. Killer deal on eBay.
Old    C D (stxdeadI)      Join Date: Oct 2016       11-02-2016, 9:51 PM Reply   
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Just bought this badboy. Killer deal on eBay.
Sweet looking board, I am debating on the blue and orange one as I have the orange parks bindings
Old    Aaron Snyder (snyderaaron)      Join Date: Mar 2010       11-02-2016, 9:52 PM Reply   
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Sweet looking board, I am debating on the blue and orange one as I have the orange parks bindings


Hell ya. Go for it
Old    C D (stxdeadI)      Join Date: Oct 2016       11-02-2016, 9:53 PM Reply   
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Hell ya. Go for it
Feel like I should test it out first. I'm riding an 05 hyperlite Byerly right now and it's getting a little dated
Old    Matt Steele (SteeleAxis)      Join Date: Oct 2012       11-02-2016, 11:49 PM Reply   
If you like orange, the new 2017 Parks is such an awesome ride. I loved all the camber boards,but think they really nailed it with this shape!

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