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Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       10-18-2013, 9:46 AM Reply   
Stats: 350 monsoon, 2315 prop, 750s in the locker, 400 in the bow, @ 11 MPH.

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Old    Nikolas Dramountanis (Greeko)      Join Date: May 2013       10-18-2013, 11:07 AM Reply   
for a 23 footer...I was expecting a bit larger of a wave...
Maybe add more weight?...
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       10-18-2013, 11:13 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greeko View Post
for a 23 footer...I was expecting a bit larger of a wave...
Maybe add more weight?...
It was rather large when riding... maybe the angle? Anywho, I was impressed with the wave. There was good length, ample push, maybe a bit steep, but you could get quite far out on the bottom turn's.
Old    Nikolas Dramountanis (Greeko)      Join Date: May 2013       10-18-2013, 11:30 AM Reply   
Yeah, probably the angle.. Mind you I just rode behind an 09 Centurion Enzo 244 and it was COLLOSAL!!! I guess I was expecting almost the same wave out of the Malibu..
Old    Nikolas Dramountanis (Greeko)      Join Date: May 2013       10-18-2013, 11:32 AM Reply   
is it closed loop cooling? Seems to have a bit of steam coming at you on the goofy side..
Old    Robert Garcia (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       10-18-2013, 11:46 AM Reply   
We just had a 2013 23 LSV at our polar bear event, although it was not the tallest wave, it was LONG, really long with good power. One of the things that was also very clear and seems to be shown in your pics, it makes a much better wake weighted, in other words, listed w/o SG.


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Old    Chris (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-18-2013, 1:52 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ragboy View Post
We just had a 2013 23 LSV at our polar bear event, although it was not the tallest wave, it was LONG, really long with good power. One of the things that was also very clear and seems to be shown in your pics, it makes a much better wake weighted, in other words, listed w/o SG.


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Different boat, similar hull. From what I read about this on the malibucrew, they were running 750s in the rear and just 400 in the bow. Had a similar setup on a demo. Wake would be better with about 600 more lbs in the bow.
Old     (Alleykat)      Join Date: Jan 2013       10-18-2013, 2:06 PM Reply   
You are correct on the wieghting of the 2014. I have been behind both versions, surfgate and listed 2013's. The 2014 performed much better with surfgate then the previous version. It's gonna have more potential due to more freeboard and deeper storage. Is it better than a fully listed version of the same boat? I dunno. But I know the answer to that on the previous hull and the listed wave is better.

1300lbs in the bow would be hairy, even with the higher freeboard. Excessive bow wieght kills push at times also, cant over do it.
Old    Frank (Frankcondemslargesloths)      Join Date: Aug 2013       10-18-2013, 2:20 PM Reply   
Are sg waves soft?
Old     (Alleykat)      Join Date: Jan 2013       10-18-2013, 2:23 PM Reply   
Softer than a properly listed wave? They seem that way to me.
Old    Dirk Walden (wakewoody)      Join Date: Sep 2010       10-18-2013, 4:05 PM Reply   
I am in the market for a new Malibu. I have a great goofy wave on my listed 11 LSV. Tried a 13 LSV w/ surf gate. Wasn't completely sold. I don't know if you can even order the new boat without surf gate? Malibu's goofy wake is way better than its port wake when listed.if you could order it w/o surf gate, you would prolly have a hard time selling it down the road.
Old    Rob Foster (surfdoggy)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-19-2013, 7:19 AM Reply   
I have a 2009 Malibu 247. Slammed and leaned with 2600 lbs, the surf wake is great. Loaded flat with 2200 lbs, and a home made manual gate, the wake is better in every respect. Measurably taller by about 4", very slightly longer, better transition, more push, curls around behind the rider more, easier to catch - just more fun to ride. The only "advantage" of the leaned wake is if you If you like a much steeper face. I have the option of leaning it or using the gate - I always use the gate.
Old    Anthony T (v10rider)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-19-2013, 10:52 AM Reply   
I think this has been discussed to death on malibu crew that listed wave is better than SG wave. SG wave is in no way bad but just not as good as a properly dialled listed wave.

For 95% of the buyers out there it is good enough and the ease of switching sides are a big plus. That being said I think the nautique with NSS seems to put out better wave.
Old    Scott (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-19-2013, 11:31 AM Reply   
That wave does look super long. Congrats.
Old     (pkh80)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-20-2013, 9:42 AM Reply   
Checkout what a 2013 LSV with Surf gate can do when properly weighted, I think the 2014 has even more potential. The only downside is that you are running a lot of ballast and I think LS3 will become the engine of choice for anyone serious about putting out a great wave.



Old    Robert Garcia (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       10-20-2013, 7:11 PM Reply   
The 23 LSV at the polar bear pictured only had the 350 in it, and it didnt' seem to have any issue with power, needed more freeboard, but power was fine.
Old    Mason Obray (MCObray)      Join Date: Mar 2013       10-21-2013, 12:00 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ragboy View Post
The 23 LSV at the polar bear pictured only had the 350 in it, and it didnt' seem to have any issue with power, needed more freeboard, but power was fine.
The 350 in the '14 seemed to being maxing out. If I remember correctly, PKH80 who was driving some of the time, made a comment that it was struggling to go over 11 MPH. The LSV also got traditionally listed and the engine sound was noticeably smoother with some weight taken out of the goofy side... almost like there was less strain on the 350.
Old    Robert Garcia (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       10-21-2013, 3:40 AM Reply   
That is very interesting. I payed for all of the boats gas at the event they averaged from 4.5 to about 6.5 GPH, the bu and the MB at the higher end (the MB had 4500 lbs of ballast plus people) and all of the boats had ~350 HP motor options, except our Z3 with the 409. None of them had issues with power, but most were propped using something like the ACME 1235. I guess I just didnt' think about it til now, that listed vs non-listed would make that much of a difference in power needs, and I am guessing gas also.
Old     (Alleykat)      Join Date: Jan 2013       10-21-2013, 6:33 PM Reply   
Makes sense. More surface drag when fully weighted. I was in that boat also, and the 350 is not enough for the new LSV. I don't think they should even build that boat with the 350.
Old    Robert Garcia (ragboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       10-21-2013, 11:21 PM Reply   
So how much weight are you running to get that wake with SG?

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