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Old    Jason (black_ops_09)      Join Date: May 2009       08-11-2013, 9:52 PM Reply   
Well got rid of the Sanger and now have the Malibu VLX. Will post pics. Was wanting to know what some of the sit-ups your running to wakeboard? I have been playing with different settings. I wanna see what others found to work
Thanks
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       08-11-2013, 10:23 PM Reply   
depends... i know a few ways. how crazy do you wanna get?
Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       08-11-2013, 10:50 PM Reply   
Congratulations on your new boat, on my second VLX, really have been enjoying this boat and Surfgate. I did add a few mods this season, switched from 1235 to the ACME 2315 prop, motor is Monsoon 350. Also converted paddlewheel to GPS Cruise, so much better at holding the speed than paddlewheel both for surfing and wakeboarding.

This is what we run:

Beginner wakeboard wake - Center tank full or no ballast at all

Intermediate wakeboard wake - Center ballast full, rear tanks 50%, wedge all the way down.

Advanced wakeboard wake - Full hard tanks, wedge 2-3 clicks up. If you want to go bigger, add a 400 lb sac to walkway, and 400lb sac in bow.

Surfgate - Full quad hard tanks, wedge all the way down, 600 lb sumo sacs in each rear locker, 11 mph, a couple people in the bow and the surf wake is really nice, easy to dial in, and all hidden ballast.

You can really get a nice clean wake out of the VLX, even at slower speeds (17-18mph). Enjoy your new boat!

Last edited by fman; 08-11-2013 at 10:53 PM.
Old    Jason (black_ops_09)      Join Date: May 2009       08-12-2013, 6:43 AM Reply   
DC well just with the four stock tanks. But was thinking about adding 2 400 lbs to rear

Travis. Thanks when you say all the down you mean on green line the mallets point? And the clicks you mean 3 from bottom?
Thanks for input
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       08-12-2013, 7:08 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by black_ops_09 View Post
DC well just with the four stock tanks. But was thinking about adding 2 400 lbs to rear

Travis. Thanks when you say all the down you mean on green line the mallets point? And the clicks you mean 3 from bottom?
Thanks for input
My experience with the VLX, an extra 400 in each rear locker will be tough to plane with the wedge down with the 350...
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       08-12-2013, 8:36 AM Reply   
im not a a huge fan of wedgewake on the wakesetter (even on my malibu and friends malibus) but if youre only thinking of add two 400s i would recommend putting both of them on the floor of the seating area (lay them long ways from rear of the boat to the bow not across so they can completely fill). this configuration you will be able to still be able to use the wedge, get on plane(not porpus), and have a clean wake.

oh whats that? you wanna get crazy?! ok!
2 400s# in the cabin
1 1000# triangle completely full in the bow
2 750s# in each locker
300# of lead in the bow
6 people in the cabin (or 750# of lead through the cabin)
1 riding and NO WEDGE
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       08-12-2013, 8:41 AM Reply   
my friends older VLX but it would still be epic for you ( he also has the 350 monsoon with the 2313 prop)
should look kinda like this


slump somewhat like this


and give it some time to get on plane but while your waiting to get to 23.5 @ 75 ft your rooster tail will look something like this



EDIT:
just realized you have tanks so subtract 300# lead in the nose
subtract 2 400s# in the cabin area.
filll your tanks and then youre rockin

Last edited by durty_curt; 08-12-2013 at 8:51 AM. Reason: math
Old    Tom (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       08-12-2013, 8:45 AM Reply   
Does the VLX handle bow wieght better than the MXZ? The MXZ was riding dangerously low in the front with a large sac + factory ballast when we tried it.
Old    Jason (black_ops_09)      Join Date: May 2009       08-12-2013, 9:19 AM Reply   
So running the 400s in rear will make it tough to plane?
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       08-12-2013, 9:37 AM Reply   
it will get on plane but you will probably porous once you are on plane. tanks full plus 800# in the rear is just too much rear weight. im guessing you already have 2 400s#??
Old    Talon Sorensen (Talonsorensen)      Join Date: Apr 2012       08-12-2013, 11:11 AM Reply   
For wakeboard we run
Flyhigh bow sac 1000lbs
750 in the play pin area
400 in the v-drive plus stock

Surf set up. With surfgate:
Bow sac
400 in walk way
750s in the v-drive plus stock
Old    Delta Force (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       08-12-2013, 11:35 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by durty_curt View Post
it will get on plane but you will probably porous once you are on plane. tanks full plus 800# in the rear is just too much rear weight. im guessing you already have 2 400s#??
Depends on the prop, yes?
Old    DC (durty_curt)      Join Date: Apr 2008       08-12-2013, 1:12 PM Reply   
it Could Do It With The 1235. But Regardless Of Getting On Plane You Will porpous, So Just Don't Do It
Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       08-12-2013, 1:15 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by black_ops_09 View Post
DC well just with the four stock tanks. But was thinking about adding 2 400 lbs to rear

Travis. Thanks when you say all the down you mean on green line the mallets point? And the clicks you mean 3 from bottom?
Thanks for input
Yes, all the way down offers the least amount of resistance and downward force. One thing about the wedge is you need to have the correct bow/transom weight balance. If you have too much rear transom weight with not enough bow weight the boat will porpoise and bounce, causing the wake to become affected. We have found anything more than 2-3 clicks up from the lowest setting adds to much wedge for the amount of bow weight we run.

Once you set the wedge the "autowedge" will bring the wedge all the way down when pulling up a rider to help the boat plane out easier, then it will pull the wedge up to your desired setting. Make sure your autowedge feature is enabled in your settings.

The VLX is capable of throwing a really nice wakeboard and surf wake when properly weighted. As I mentioned earlier, I went to the ACME 2315 prop because I was having power issues at 2000' elevation with 1235 and Monsoon 350. The 2315 has really helped the holeshot and amount of weight we can run in the boat, especially for surfing. I can still cruise at 30 mph at around 4000 RPMs, have been very pleased with the 2315 prop.

Last edited by fman; 08-12-2013 at 1:17 PM.
Old    Brett B. (Brett_B)      Join Date: Sep 2010       08-12-2013, 2:07 PM Reply   
My setup:
2012 VLX
350 Monsoon
Acme 2315 prop
Stock 4-tank ballast setup all full
1000lb bow triangle (~90% full)
750lb in each rear locker (~90% full)
Wedge ~2 clicks up (Start in full down using Autowedge feature)

The wake is amazing. Big, clean, rampy and solid with all that extra nose weight.
The wedge works great on these boats. I use it to tune the wake so it's always clean and with the right amount of lip for the speed and line length each rider wants.
With the wedge all the way down I can run that much weight and still be clean at 65-70' and 21 mph, or a couple clicks up to have an awesome solid/clean lip at 75' and 23 mph.
The previous gen VLX hull seems to be better without the wedge and just a bit more rear weight bias. However the wedge works really well on the current generation hull (09+) for getting an awesome wake without running quite as much rear weight bias.

Last edited by Brett_B; 08-12-2013 at 2:11 PM.
Old    Jason (black_ops_09)      Join Date: May 2009       08-12-2013, 7:47 PM Reply   
Thanks for all the info. I was really trying to run minimal weight as possible. I was think about pluming in 400s in the rear to just give it that lil extra. Sounds like if I do I'd have to run weight in the nose and maybe change prop.
Old    Brett B. (Brett_B)      Join Date: Sep 2010       08-13-2013, 9:15 AM Reply   
You would want the 1235 prop instead of the stock 1939 prop even if you were only running stock ballast. It will save you gas and get you on plane faster, pretty much paying for itself in the first year or two with fuel savings. The 2315 is for running lots of weight above and beyond what the 1235 can do. For just plumbing in 400's in the rear lockers you could put some lead in the nose if you didn't want a bag up there.
Old    Jason (black_ops_09)      Join Date: May 2009       08-13-2013, 2:14 PM Reply   
Cool so the 1235 prop actually helps running stock and if add a lil weight?
Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       08-13-2013, 3:36 PM Reply   
Just to add to Brett's reply, I was running factory hard tanks full, wedge 2-3 clicks up, 10 people in the boat at 2000' elevation with the 1235 and I could not get the boat to plane out , unless I moved 4 people in the bow. Even moving people to the bow it was VERY slow in plaining out, painfully slow. And when surfing at this elevation, loaded up (hard tanks full, (2) 600 lb sumos in each locker, wedge all way down, 10 people in boat), I could not exceed 10.4 mph WOT, that is all the boat had. This is why I switched the 2315, at 2000' elevation I was told I was loosing min. 25-30HP. The 2315 planes out the boat with no problems with these setups, and I can surf at 11 mph with no issues.

I think I am using less fuel with the 2315 because the motor does not require WOT near as much as it did with the 1235, just my experience.
Old    Jason (black_ops_09)      Join Date: May 2009       08-14-2013, 9:50 PM Reply   
Hey Travis when you say 2-3 clicks up you mean if wedge was all the way down perpendicular from boat?
Old    Adam Balon (adam_balon)      Join Date: Jul 2003       08-14-2013, 10:28 PM Reply   
hey man... i run an lsv but this works amazing.....

24 mph
wakeboard advanced preset
1000-1200 in nose
2 750's in the rear lockers.
Old    Travis (fman)      Join Date: Nov 2008       08-15-2013, 8:17 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by black_ops_09 View Post
Hey Travis when you say 2-3 clicks up you mean if wedge was all the way down perpendicular from boat?
Yes, wedge all the way down would be least amount of pressure on transom. Two or three clicks up from lowest setting, the more clicks up the more pressure is put on the wedge and transom sinks lower into water.
Old    Jason (black_ops_09)      Join Date: May 2009       08-17-2013, 10:41 AM Reply   
Thanks everyone for the knowledge. I think first step is get the 1235 prop on
Old    Jason (black_ops_09)      Join Date: May 2009       08-17-2013, 11:01 AM Reply   
Looks like most run the wedge about three clicks from bottom. Wouldn't it make wake bigger if ran at the peak? To sink
Old    Bryce (brycejb328)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-17-2013, 11:41 AM Reply   
if by "peak" you mean, all the way down. Not necessarily. Its all relevant to the angle than the boat is running when at wakeboarding speed versus the angle of the wedge running through the water. Think of it kinda like those auto adjusting spoilers on some of the exotic cars, that wedge is doing essentially the same thing in the water.

I usually put mine close to all the way down and keep bumping it up until I get the best looking wake, depending on amount of people, ballast, fuel, etc.... it can be a little different every times. You can definitely tell when you get the wedge into the position in which it is pulling down the back end the most.. on the flip side of that.. its also very easy to tell when you've put it up so far that its simple not effective.

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