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Old    Riggin Rixstine (skers85)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-23-2013, 5:07 PM Reply   
I'm in the market for a new boat. I am new to wakeboarding and the boats right now I'm behind a I/o (boo) regretting that decision. Anyway just wondering what the best hardcore wakeboard boats are
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       06-23-2013, 5:13 PM Reply   
Nautique g23. It's a game changer
Old    Rex Lex (rexlex01)      Join Date: Mar 2010       06-23-2013, 5:19 PM Reply   
The Big 3
Old    Riggin Rixstine (skers85)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-23-2013, 5:42 PM Reply   
Yea I wish I could afford the g23 but price range is more around 35k
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-23-2013, 5:45 PM Reply   
Pretty much all the boats are great these days. All have their advantages and disadvantages. If you plan on surfing the new systems by Malibu and Nautique really set them apart in my book. They not only have amazing wakeboard wakes but now both have great surf wakes without listing the boat a ton. I wouldn't be surprised if the other companies have something up their sleeves for 2014. I would expect Supra to have something, Mastercraft have something better than they currently have(surf tabs) and Centurion has already come out with an adjustable tracking fin to accomplish the same thing. Some seem to ride better in rough water(MB, Centurion, Tige, Sanger, Supreme) while some seem to have cleaner/consistant wakes at low speeds like Malibu, the new Supra, and most of the mastercrafts.

If by hardcore you mean best wakeboard wake I would think a list of boats to at least look at should look like this:

Axis A20
Axis A22
Axis A24(sounds like is a new model)
Malibu VTX
Malibu VLX
Malibu LSV
MAlibu 247
Malibu MXZ22
Malibu MXZ24
Nautique SAN210
Nautique SAN230
Nautique G23
Nautique G25
Mastercraft Xstar
Mastercraft X30
Mastercraft X10
Supra SA
Moomba Mojo
MB 21 Tomcat
MB 21 TWB
MB 23 TWB
MB 24 tomcat
Tige RZR
Rige RZ2
Tige Z1
Tige Z3
Tige RZ4
Epic 23' boat(not sure model name)
I probably forgot some but that list should keep you busy for a while.
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-23-2013, 5:49 PM Reply   
Scratch all that if you price range is 35k. New List of boats you might be able to get close to 35k or less:

Mastercraft Xstar/X2/X1(205V hull)
Malibu VLX(probably can't find a 2005 or newer but might be able to get close to 40k)
Malibu LSV(same as VLX although the better hull started in 2004 for the LSV)
Malibu VLX/Vride hull(pre 2005 wake hull in a VLX and 2005-2008 Vride)
Nautique 210-same hull from mid 2000's supersport to 2006 Supersport and SAN
Supra 22SSV
Supra 21V
Sanger V210
Sanger V215
Tige 22V
Tige 24V
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       06-23-2013, 5:52 PM Reply   
No sanger on top list? What the hell is wrong with you Brett!!???lol
Old    Josh M (dvsone79)      Join Date: Dec 2012       06-23-2013, 5:53 PM Reply   
I was about to ask what type of budget you have, but you only said "new boat" and "hardcore wakeboard boat", so I guess that pretty much narrows it down to the G23. I'm tempted to throw the new Xstar in there just because I'm an MC owner, but if I had the money I'd go with the G23. Hands down.
Old    Riggin Rixstine (skers85)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-23-2013, 5:58 PM Reply   
Sorry I should have said new to me I could probably swing 40k but trying to stay around 35k we will probably surf a little as well but wakeboarding mostly I really like a wake that will boost me I like a lot of hang time to do slow spins long grabs
Old    Riggin Rixstine (skers85)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-23-2013, 5:59 PM Reply   
I heard the San 210 has a good wake but I don't know the best years
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-23-2013, 6:29 PM Reply   
The nautique Supersport/Super Air nautique(SAN) 210 all had the same hull from 1995(I think is the first year) to 2006. I believe the 2002/2003 are considered the best but I could be wrong on that. It has more to do with narrow gunnels which make it roomier inside the boat. I personally would look for a Tige 22v. They are suppose to have an awesome wake with ballast that is pretty steep but will have far more room inside than a SAN, ride better in rough water than a SAN and surf better than a SAN. The quality of those era Nautiques was probably better than the Tige but I am not sure by how much.
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-23-2013, 6:30 PM Reply   
A sanger V215 would also be a boat that would have all those same advantages of the Tige over the Nautique and will also have a great wake from what wakeworlder's have said.
Old    Riggin Rixstine (skers85)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-23-2013, 6:50 PM Reply   
How's the Sanger v230?
Old    Riggin Rixstine (skers85)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-23-2013, 6:55 PM Reply   
I've been wanting to narrow it down to a few different boats so my searching can be more specific the biggest problem I have is I live in Nebraska so I can't drive or ride behind very many boats as there is not a lot to chose from around me
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-23-2013, 7:25 PM Reply   
I don't know much about the Sanger V230. I think it is just a bigger version of the V215.

Here are a couple great options listed on onlyinboards that aren't far from you.

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=34939 This is a great looking boat that would throw a great wake. The messed up interior is a little worrisome though.

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=38251 Nice VLX although maybe a little high on the price.

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=37350 Big Nice boat. Kind of high hours but if well taken care of no need to worry.

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=37997 Nice newer style 22SSV.

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=38443 Nice looking SAN210
Old    Riggin Rixstine (skers85)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-23-2013, 7:38 PM Reply   
Thanks
Old    Josh M (dvsone79)      Join Date: Dec 2012       06-24-2013, 6:32 AM Reply   
For the money, I would stick to an MC 205v hull or a CC Super Air Nautique 210. Late 90s to early 00's. Both put out nearly unbeatable wakes, can be found for sub $30k, and hold their value very well. My 14yr old MC 205v looks better than most 4yr old boats. All original upholstery, except sun deck because I chose to convert it from a one piece to a 3 piece. And the boat gets used consistently. I just passed the 1,000hr mark this season. She'll easily go another 1,000.
Old    Chris Dirty (Dmac420sj)      Join Date: Mar 2012       06-24-2013, 9:42 AM Reply   
Ya should look in the 25 k range cuz you know your gonna want to get that stereo slappin' so gonna need some rev10s on there.
Old    Riggin Rixstine (skers85)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-24-2013, 3:23 PM Reply   
Thanks for the help I do really like the San 210, which MC's have the 205v hull
Old    Boarder85 (fouroheight68)      Join Date: May 2006       06-24-2013, 4:16 PM Reply   
This seems right up your alley http://sacramento.craigslist.org/bod/3883730513.html
Old    Brett Yates (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       06-24-2013, 6:38 PM Reply   
205V hull

Any prostar 205V
1999-2002 Xstar
2003-2005 X2
2006-whenever they quite making them X1

If wakeboard wake and quality are your only priorities The SAN210 and 205V hull are hard to beat. That said both are small and have little storage. Especially the 205V. The 205V is probably the worst rough water vdrive boat to date. It will however ski ok. Both the SAN and the 205V are holding their value very good although I would argue all Vdrives in the sub 40-50k range are holding their value very well.

I am not trying to argue against the SAN or 205V boats as they are both legendary but I really think there are other boats that do close to the same things wake wise but are a lot bigger, surf better and ride better in rough water.
Old    Riggin Rixstine (skers85)      Join Date: Jun 2013       06-24-2013, 8:57 PM Reply   
I usually would ride with 3-5 people on a regular maybe 7-8 max on holiday weekend or something. Another thing i've been wondering about is when your adding more weight like fat sacs or anything else i dont want them all over the floor taking up a bunch of room. Remember i'm really new to all this so i have a lot of questions and i dont really know anyone to help me out so i'm trying to take in as much info as i can. I am a beginner rider but want a boat that i can really progress my riding on

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