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Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-09-2013, 6:35 PM Reply   
I have a 1989 Condor Swiss Army bike I bought in Lucern brand new. (in 1989).
The running gear is all Edco, ceramic rims, hydraulic brakes, ect. cool bike.
Anyway the rear hub has broken and I want to replace it with an original hub.
I cant find one...
You guys know places that Google doesn't. Old school pot heads garage, whatever.. Any leads are appreciated.
I think it's a predecessor to the big rock MTB hub. 36 hole, probably cassette friendly.

Thank you,
John
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Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-09-2013, 7:38 PM Reply   
BK, that's what's known at the bike shop as a rusty ol P.O.S.

I very well could be wrong, but I never ever saw a bolt-on rear hub that took a cassette in that era (I worked in shops 1990-93).

You'd have better luck putting on a pair of xt period wheels (and they will be used up and done or super spendy "retro")
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-09-2013, 7:39 PM Reply   
what deraileurs are on the bike now?
Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-10-2013, 4:13 AM Reply   
Shimano Deore,

Its a 38 hole hub.

Im just looking for a hub. I can lace it myself. If all else fails Ill put a Shimano hub in so everything else still fits. I would like to keep it correct with the bike though and source the correct hub.



Old yes, a little rusty sure... POS? i think not.... Perhaps an odd duck. . Also the bike was not very available in the US. It was Swiss military. There is no front derailleur and only seven gears rear. I would understand why you dont' recognize it.
Old    Will Ellis (SESanger)      Join Date: Apr 2013       05-10-2013, 5:50 AM Reply   
Have you tried contacting Edco? Company is out of the Netherlands, production is in Switzerland with assembly in Netherlands.

http://www.edcoengineering.nl/
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-10-2013, 5:56 AM Reply   
I've never heard of a 38 hole hub. Betcha a dollar you were right the first time with 36.

By POS maybe a bit harsh... A collectors piece maybe but it looks like it weighs a million lbs and yet still won't handle great (1" steer tube ... Given the rust on the hub is the quill stem fused inside the steer tube? Seatpost rusted tight too?). When I worked at a shop in San Diego we saw bikes that would come from people who lived at the beach that looked like yours... Salt air isn't kind.

So all that said, I really have a soft spot for old school 7 speed thumb shifted Deore. Very bomber mech.

Here is a wheelset that even comes with period correct rust.

http://bit.ly/12liCtK
Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-14-2013, 5:08 AM Reply   
36 right, sorry. and yeah it weighs a ton and rides like crap but its still a very cool old bike. Edco doesn't have anything now except road bike stuff as far as i can tell. Thanks for the link.

Hey Shawndoggy, i found a period Bullseye hub on CL. Will that accept my gear set?
Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-14-2013, 5:15 AM Reply   
The rust cleans up. Nothing is seized or stuck even the spoke nipples turn. The rims are unique as well, I think they are ceramic (?) hydraulic brakes etc. So I want to buy only a hub and re-lace the wheel. Should i just find a Deore hub and paint it black? It would be close I guess, and It aint exactly in Museum condition as Y'all have observed.
Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-14-2013, 5:17 AM Reply   
Its my grocery getter. The racks can hold a 12 pack of bottles, full size bag of charcoal, burgers, buns and chips. Can your fancy pants bike do that ?
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-14-2013, 5:17 AM Reply   
You need to take your rear wheel off and get us a pic of the cogs so we can tell whether its a cassette or freewheel hub.
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-14-2013, 5:24 AM Reply   
If the rims are mavic "ceramic" it's just a coating on the breaking surface. A gimmick. There were lots of weird ideas around that time. Same for hydro rim brakes... ("All of the drawbacks of rim breaks plus the added complication of hydraulics at only 4x the price!").

But it does look pretty sweet as a grocery getter. You guys got any fixie riding hipsters down in FL? Find out where those cats get their bikes.... If there's some kind of old bike refurb shop you might find something. If you roll that bad boy into a "traditional" bike shop you'll just get blank stares. It's probably older than the avg shop employee.
Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-14-2013, 5:31 AM Reply   
stand by
Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-14-2013, 5:44 AM Reply   
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Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-14-2013, 5:55 AM Reply   
yeah 7 spd cassette hub is what you will need. it will end up being quick release not bolt on methinks. I would not go to thetrouble of rebuilding a wheel on a 25 year old rim... but it could be done.
Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-14-2013, 5:59 AM Reply   
It would take a case of beer and bottle of Advil to tell the stories of my local "bike shop". Useless as **** on a boar hog.

I rode for Redline and Powerlite in my early teens in San Diego around 33 years ago.( partial sponsorship, occasional frame sets and parts, the rare entry paid) I built all my own bikes, built all my own wheel sets, Old school stuff, milled chains when nobody knew what that was.

I see OM Flyer is still around. i raced the same tracks as that dude way back then. I cant remember his name.
Old    Baitkiller (baitkiller)      Join Date: Jan 2010       05-14-2013, 6:02 AM Reply   
Thanks Shawn, ill start looking. I wonder if I can change the axle to bolt-on. I dont know if the quick release will clear the derailure guard.
Old    Eric (DenverRider)      Join Date: Feb 2013       05-14-2013, 9:17 AM Reply   
One day my wife, daughter 8, son 9 and I were riding and we saw a Boulder type riding a fixie and my wife said look at that hipster riding the fixie. My daughter asked "what is a hipster?". My son's answer was "it's kind of like a doosh only with a fixie.".
Old    Shawndoggy (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       05-14-2013, 10:04 AM Reply   
the QR "nut" shouldn't be any bigger than that axle bolt. That derailleur guard cracks me up. It looks like it's there to protect the rear mech from snipers.

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